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(...) Seems to me programs need the ability to specify the LDRAWINI directory (and possibly LDRAWDIR) on the command line, for non-standard setups. Maybe the library needs an Ldraw-specific getopt[1] function as well. ROSCO [1] (URL) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm logged onto an NT domain right now at work and it's set to this: ALLUSERSPROFILE=C:\Documents and Settings\All Users That's on the local drive. But I suppose you're right, a competent administrator could set it up somewhere on the network. (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: lugnet.cad.dev (2004.03.03.1000) #9551 (1 article)
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(...) Well, there is Mac OS 8-9 and Mac OS X. Mac OS 8-9: The search path for the ini/pref file is: /System Folder/Preferences There is no where else it should be saved. Andrew can tell you what the format is (I don't think it is xml/plist). Mac OS (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) You're welcome. I chose C rather than C++ because L3P is still also compiled with 1988 TurboC. L3Lab and LDrawSetup is C++, but can easily interface to a lib in C. You can write a wrapper class if you think it's necessary. (...) But of course (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Sure. (...) OK. (...) Fine. (...) I think so too. Users will also have the option to use the new app LDrawSetup, which can setup LDrawDir, SearchDirs, LgeoDirectory, MIME-types. /Lars (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It's no problem handling the \ or /'s. We do that all the time already in our parts referencing e.g. S\3039S01.DAT, we do manage to find the subpart on unix too :-) My library reads env vars and ini files in any format and converts it to the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) No, but leading blanks would be preserved as well... (...) Isn't that what %ALLUSERSPROFILE% is for? (...) LDRAWINI is just an opportunity for quickly temporarily using another specific ldraw.ini file. /Lars (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Lars C. Hassing" <sp.lars@am.hassings.dk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Htz996.1H4@lugnet.com... (...) style of (...) it - (...) What I said ;-) <SNIP> (...) env (...) with (...) notified (...) all programs. (...) That sound interesting - any way I (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Hu0CMF.1Fyv@lugnet.com... (...) Ok, agreed too. So with have <HIDE> and optionally <SHOW> - right? (...) I would still like the quotation marks as an option - not a must. If a (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oh yeah. One other thing about an ldraw.ini located on a central server. I'd prefer to leave the client OS up to the user. This reinforces my case for the <LDRAWDIR>parts path format without the nasty OS specific slash character. Enjoy, Don (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I agree, and prefer <> around all tags. (...) Ah, but what about leading blanks. ;^) Nevermind, I don't think you can create an absolute path that starts with leading blanks. (...) But wait. The reason given for looking in LDRAWDIR is for a (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The data contained in either environment variables or ini files should have exactly the same format. (...) Trailing blanks are preserved in both env var and ini files. So I still don't think quotation marks are necessary... (...) I didn't mean (...) (21 years ago, 3-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Where to store the preferences? While I've been aware of this thread, I haven't actually been following it, so correct me if I've got the wrong end of the stick. (...) MacOS 9 and earlier is a single user environment and it was easy to place (and (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
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(...) Sorry to immediately respond to my own respond to my own reply, but I forgot one minor detail. The corallary to this bit is that to be safe, Windows programs should treat both / and \ as path separators any time they parse paths, and work (...) (21 years ago, 2-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I believe that this isn't entirely true. We had a problem at work where a program didn't work right in Windows 9x (I think it was 98, but I'm not entirely sure), but worked fine in Windows NT and Windows 2000. After some careful debugging, I (...) (21 years ago, 2-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That's not exactly true. I'm sure you can work out an arrangement with Lars. After all, L3P is not entirely open source, and the benefit of all the LDRAW tools using an identical parts search strategy is probably more useful than having you (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oh. I didn't know it was as easy as: ~/MacOSX/environment.plist I guess that is one route. In Cocoa, which is what Andrew and I are both developing in now, it is really easy to grab prefs that have a unique name for the application. It isn't (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HtwMAE.3BM@lugnet.com... (...) Done, sorry about that - but it was a hard day at work :-( (...) As mentioned earlier in this thread ... we should go with: 1) Users Home (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
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Ok I hop on again ... "Lars C. Hassing" <sp.lars@am.hassings.dk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Htnz7B.G2z@lugnet.com... (...) located (...) directories, (...) (URL) However, I suggest section name [LDrawSearch] which is more in line with [LDraw]. I (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Actually Environment variables work pretty well on OS X because they've set up a standard place to put them, and it's one of those plist files. See here for details. (URL) would be nice though to have a standard fallback location for the (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
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One other thing. Environment variables work too, but only serious Unixy Mac OS X people actually modify them--that is, some developers, but no one else. Normal users would even know what they are. Heck, even I don't modify mine. For my l3p and (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) /etc would work, except it would require admin permission to install, which is something the Mac OS X community doesn't like for an installer/app that isn't a system modifying type of installer/app. Saving stuff in /etc/ will also not survive (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oops, I forgot to add this. These sort of restrictions mean a user may be forced to put extra search directories in their home directory. Rather than recognize $HOME or %USERPROFILE% in an absolute path, it might be nice to add a <HOME> (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
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(...) I'm only willing to abandon environment variables if you're willing to go the distance and really try to work out a standard that we all can use. I, like Lars, was quite disappointed when you got impatient and cut short the previous discussion (...) (21 years ago, 1-Mar-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
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| | Parts Tracker outages in preparation for release of 2004-01
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Please expect some availability outages on the Parts Tracker today (and maybe for the next few days), as I work on the next parts update. If all goes well the 2004-01 update will be ready in the next few days. Chris Dee (LDraw Parts Admin) (21 years ago, 29-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I agree (although I did point something out in a response to Orion's response). Unix (and Unix-like) environments do often use the environment to control things, but they also use dot files. And while it wouldn't make sense to have an (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, the ldraw directory itself can be specified in ldraw.ini. And while I agree that filling up the Windows directory is generally a bad thing, you can't have the file be in the LDraw directory if it is the file that specifies where to find (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I agree. I like the ini file solution over the environmet varible (...) I agree that putting the ldraw.ini the LDRAW dir would make much more sense (why it wasn't in the first place is puzzling) but the problem is that the programs the use it (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I just start a new sub-thread to discuss two very important points where I thought over two nights now: The location of the ini file and environment variables! I would not recommend to go with both solutions, because its source for possible errors (...) (21 years ago, 28-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think you are being a bit unreasonable. The discussion is about a fundamental functionality of LDraw, which has impact on all programs. Agreement is important to ease the life of the end user: *one* place for setup. We try to accomodate (...) (21 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | LDraw Design Pad (LDDP) 1.54 Released
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LDDesignPad (LDDP) is a tool for editing and handling LDraw files in a very comfortable way. Download it here: (URL) are: -Fully customizable editor with syntax highlighting -Open multiple files at the same time -Unlimited Undo/Redo -Use/define (...) (21 years ago, 27-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.announce)
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Sorry to be a bit harsh now but whats going on here now is exactly what I ment with overkill in discussions. We discuss about a quite simple small usefull feature - but we also discuss how we can make things complicated and beeing a long process (...) (21 years ago, 26-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Exactly, and you don't look for a part named "\3006.DAT" in the PARTS directory? When you combine the full path to the PARTS directory with the part filename you have to add the "\" yourself, right? So I know you can do it... (...) Ah, but (...) (21 years ago, 26-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) OK. (...) But you don't declare LDRAWDIR as C:\LDraw\, i.e. with a trailing backslash. We also use %WINDIR%\ldraw.ini and not %WINDIR%ldraw.ini. I think most variable substitution in any (script) language uses explicit delimiters in stead of (...) (21 years ago, 26-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I also considered suggesting [LDrawSearch] but I held back and went with the "me too". I do like [LDrawSearch] better though. (...) Sure, but use lowercase ldraw.ini please! I'm too lazy to remember to use the shift key on a case sensitive (...) (21 years ago, 26-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Me too. I think it is a good idea with a separate section for the search directories, it allows shorter keys than suggested in (URL) I suggest section name [LDrawSearch] which is more in line with [LDraw]. (...) Yes, first (...) (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HtnCyv.188q@lugnet.com... <SNIP> (...) I will not use the variable, files should be readable on any platform ;-) What about quotation marks in the lines? I suggest to NOT (...) (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | trackdraw, sourceforge
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TrackDraw is now in the alpha stage, which means it is feature complete, though with many bugs. Thanks to everyone who helped with the design phase. I'm working on the transition from the Yahoo group (URL) to the sourceforge project (URL) . Here's a (...) (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths
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(...) It works for me too. So we should check the user's home directory for an ldraw.ini file containing an [LDRAW_SEARCH] section, then if not found look in the ldraw.ini file in Windows directory. For myself, because of platform portability (...) (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: New LDraw Animation: Rotation Animation
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(...) I've really fixed the problem this ime and possibly found a bug in the "Print this story" feature of PostNuke. -Orion (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well.... Maybe not. -Orion (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I fixed the problem. -Orion (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: New LDraw Animation: Rotation Animation
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(...) I wanted to print this, so I clicked on LDraw'org's "print" icon, and got this... :( Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /usr/www/users/peero...serapi.php on line 580 Thanks, Franklin (21 years ago, 25-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It looks good to me. --Travis Cobbs (21 years ago, 24-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@earthlink.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:mna930t5n6agvkl...4ax.com... (...) etc. (...) Good idea, so how about [LDRAW_SEARCH] 1=SHOW <MODELDIR> 2=HIDE <LDRAWDIR>P 3=SHOW <LDRAWDIR>Parts 4=SHOW <LDRAWDIR>Models . . . (...) (21 years ago, 24-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Guide to LDraw "Star Wars Lego" building/modeling?
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(...) Yes, most of the patterned part for the Star Wars line haven't been made yet but that because pattern parts are relatively difficult to model. As far as the other part, which one are you referring too? (21 years ago, 23-Feb-04, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Ryan's overhauled site
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(...) Whoa, good timing! Just a few hours ago I was poking around your site to see your LDraw-compatible K'Nex and Lincoln Log stuff, and I noticed the slick new design. Very sharp! One comment, though. The K'Nex and Lincoln Log links from this (...) (21 years ago, 20-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.publish, lugnet.general)
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| | Ryan's overhauled site
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I'm happy to announce after half a year in the making, my entirely re-designed web site has been launched! Visit (URL) to see it. With its new look, Virtual Construction has a better face for the world, and you can even see a separate experimental (...) (21 years ago, 20-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.publish, lugnet.general)
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| | Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths
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(...) [snip] (...) This could be addressed by prepending each value/line with 1=, 2=, 3=, etc. Steve (21 years ago, 19-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:HtAD4n.BCJ@lugnet.com... <SNIP> (...) <SNIP> (...) FILE:// style is fully machine dependend as well, so there is no need to put file in front, but I'm open to additionaly (...) (21 years ago, 18-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) ME and the NT variants store the environment in the registry so this would only make things worse for 95 and 98. That said, I'd still prefer to keep things short for the environment version of this. One variable, with as many shortcuts as (...) (21 years ago, 18-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) In DOS/Windows the problem with environment space is (I believe) more a problem of limited total environment space. I don't think there's additional limitations on individual variables. So using multiple environment variables might conceivably (...) (21 years ago, 18-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths
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(...) Right. In case the variable gets too long we can resort to multiple variables: [LDraw] BaseDirectory=C:\LDraw LgeoDirectory=C:\L2P LdrawSearch01=<HIDE>...MyPrims\In Work LdrawSearch02=C:\LDr...MyParts\In Work LdrawSearch03=<MODELDIR> (...) (21 years ago, 17-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Something similar (but probably not identical to) the above would have my vote (I'll explain below). I would clarify that if ldraw.ini can't be found in the user's home directory (aka the user profile directory), then the Windows directory (...) (21 years ago, 17-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hi Don, "Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Ht8vwM.ps2@lugnet.com... (...) <SNIP> > (...) Have you ever tried to pull out a variable under MS-Windows with a length of 500 characters? Or what would happen if the (...) (21 years ago, 17-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, as Lars said earlier: (...) [LDraw] BaseDirectory=C:\LDraw LgeoDirectory=C:\L2P LdrawSearch="<HIDE>C...MyPrims\In Work| C:\LDrawXtra\MyParts\In Work| <MODELDIR>|<HIDE><LD...BFC\PARTS| <HIDE><P>|<PARTS>|<M...arts\Done" I like the single (...) (21 years ago, 17-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Ht6s7G.1792@lugnet.com... (...) major (...) ini (...) user (...) There is another disadvantage of this methode. Environment variables are very system dependend and usualy are (...) (21 years ago, 17-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) A bit wordy, but not bad. How about a few more predefined tags for the standard directories to save environment space? Like using <P> instead of <LDRAWDIR>\P, <PARTS> instead of <LDRAWDIR>\parts, and <MODELS> instead of <LDDRAWDIR>\models? (...) (21 years ago, 16-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Ht1H5p.1G0v@lugnet.com... <SNIP> (...) ;-)))))) (21 years ago, 14-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Very true. Perhaps you should arrange for someone to email you whenever we actually agree on something here. Since that seems to be a rare occurance, it shouldn't be much of a burden on your inbox. ;^) Hmm, that'd be a nice addition to lugnet, (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ok, I didn't get that. But it's not a problem to change that. Finding things we or some agreed on is a hard job, when you do not know what you are looking for, and follow the discussions regulary. Michael (21 years ago, 13-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I disagree with the idea of platform specific solutions, especially since we're now thinking about including extra information in the list (such as directives to hide certain paths) to make it more compatible with the list used by MLCAD. If (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths
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(...) Perhaps the delimiter character needs to be platform dependent? I realize that's not an ideal solution for programs. But I don't think people will be shipping LDraw search path settings between OS's, so it would be alright for users. I don't (...) (21 years ago, 13-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths
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As has already been stated, Willy asked if I could add a feature to LDView to allow it to view models that are created in MLCad using the new feature of the MLCad beta version. It seemed like a reasonable request, so I added the feature, which made (...) (21 years ago, 12-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths
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(...) So, it seems like the search candidates are: <MODELDIR> (of the currently loaded model (PROJECTDIR)) <LDRAWDIR>\P <LDRAWDIR>\PARTS <LDRAWDIR>\MODELS <LDRAWDIR>\AnotherDir <LDRAWDIR>\AnotherDir\SubDir C:\LDrawXtra\MyParts\In Work (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) [snip] (...) Yes, I thought we agreed on that long ago (URL) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think old Mac's (before MacOSX) use : as directory delimiter. (...) Only the specified directories. It's up to you to specify e.g. LDRAWPOSTDIRS=C:\Som...eDir\PARTS /Lars (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Since MLCAD is for fun, you should work on it in whatever way makes you happy. I guess you'll have to weigh the enjoyment you get from freely implementing your own standards against any disappointment you may feel if everyone doesn't agree (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think that in general it would be a bad idea to put anything like this in ldconfig.ldr. The reason is that this file is distributed with parts updates, so shouldn't contain anything specific to your particular system. Otherwise you have to (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Don Heyse" <dheyse@hotmail.spam....away.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Hsxs1M.rIC@lugnet.com... <SNIP> (...) Ok right, but when I start discussing new features I'm going to implement there will be a much bigger delay in new MLCad version than we (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDRAWPREDIRS LDRAWPOSTDIRS - additional search paths
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(...) I agree, however I'd like to point out that you could have started a discussion here, before inventing your own personal solution. That's what this forum is for. Getting back to your example, I have some questions. Are all of those paths (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hi, Just to give my two cents ... "Lars C. Hassing" <sp.lars@am.hassings.dk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Hsw4I7.MxC@lugnet.com... (...) search paths for parts. (...) usual ones. LDView got its implementation after a preview release of MLCAD 3.01, (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) No, because you already need the LDRAWDIR environment variable, or ldraw.ini, or some other OS specific method to find the LDRAW directory. And since directory paths have filesystem dependent quirks, it's probably best to keep them out of (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) just for the record. first time I came across custom folder support was in mid november 2003 doing betatesting for mlcad's new release. for me one of the most significant improvements in 3.01 'cos for the first time I could separate unofficial (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hey, you're right. I wonder how the Windows PATH variable handles that. Probably it just doesn't work... Anyhow, the unix PATH variable uses ':' as the delimiter (at least with the bash shell). So maybe '|' is better, even though you need to (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Sure, I just chose | because ; is allowed in filenames. /Lars (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I like this idea. Can you support delimiting paths by ';' instead of '|'? ';' is more in line with the delimitation in the PATH environment varible. -Orion (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Several users have asked for an option to L3P for specifying additional search paths for parts. LDView already has implemented "Extra Search Dirs" to search after the usual ones. I think it would be of common interest and for the benefit of the (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm not sure you're right there. I think Steve may have been trying to achieve a specific dithered look, different from the effect created by the pre-defined metal code in say ldview or ldglite, probably to better differentiate some static (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Whoops. Silly me. It's amazing the tricks memory can play on you ;-). (...) While this is still probably do-able, I think my original argument about the possible creation of future tags still holds (unless you're also agreeing to the enforced (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, I don't think that qualifies as an argument for its inclusion in the new !COLOUR statement, since those are already covered by the more precise pre-defined materials. --Travis Cobbs (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Why not just RGB instead of the not too intuitive VALUE? (I mean, it colud be any parameter value) Developers, what softwares will be updated to support this? L3P? ML-Cad? L3Lab? LDView? ...? /Tore (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I don't want to specify that some parameters are order-specific, and others aren't. I'd rather they are all one way or the other. Goes back to easier 'correct' parsing. However, I'm sure the entries in ldconfig.ldr will always have their tags (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Actually, the spec says just the opposite, that tags (keywords) are not case-sensitive: (...) That seems reasonable. Steve (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Actually, I've most recently used dithering to simulate chrome/metal/metallic parts. Steve (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) OK, I'm alright with that. (...) If that's a needed parameter, I'd rather have it follow the METALLIC keyword. (...) I'm ok with that, too. Is '50%' really an adequate description? There can be many brush patterns... Steve (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) There had been discussion previously about differentiating true comments from meta-statements. The LSC agreed that it seems like a good idea to start prefixing meta-keywords with a punctuation mark, and we chose !. And !COLOUR is shorter than (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Actually, I was considering the possibility of (patterned) parts including custom color definitions, which would only apply to that part. (...) That's a good question. Think about this: what if file A also has some surfaces hard-coded to color (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: L3PPARTS (Was: Re: Change to existing policy on embedding POV-Ray code in Official Files)
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(...) Me, too. This also solves an issue for having .dat files not too detailed, like the rounded metal parts on 12V train conductor parts. Now the .dat files can contain a square box, which is fast drawn in construction programs and the .inc files (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) [snip] (...) I think it's a good idea! The only thing I think needs looking at is the naming - should it be dedicated to L3P or to the renderer, eg: RENDERPARTS\POVRAY RENDERPARTS\BRYCE etc. That way, people can provide their own program to do (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: L3PPARTS (Was: Re: Change to existing policy on embedding POV-Ray code in Official Files)
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I Like it :) It is a great solution to a sticky problem. -Chuck (21 years ago, 29-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Thanks. I implemented it that way, and it seems to be working so far, so I believe that everything is fine. (...) You're too right. Unfortunately, I can go for a while and do a really good job of commenting, and then I'll slack off for one (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I have these comments: 1) Why not use COLOURDEF in stead of introducing the'!' ? 2) CHROME | METALLIC | RUBBER seem to me like materials. Are they just shortcuts for convenience? 3) It should be possible to specify RGB color in decimal. Either r,g,b (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yeah, well, it's been three years since the last L3P release, so I guess it's about time for another :-) The current v1.3 release has proven to be quite stable, so I have just collected and implemented a list of wishes from various users. (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Since det(AB)=det(A)det(B) I don't think it matters whether you check the determinant (mirroring) at each level or the final level. Too bad you didn't add a comment in your old code :-) I often beat myself for not adding more elaborate (...) (21 years ago, 27-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) When I first read, this, it seemed reasonable, but probably difficult to implement in a renderer. The more I think about it, though, the more I think the difficulty outweighs the niceness. Specifically, I think it would be a royal pain to (...) (21 years ago, 28-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) this is exactly what I was hoping for. w. (21 years ago, 27-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: * LDraw Design Pad (LDDP) 1.53 released *
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(...) F12, F12, F12, F12, .... ;-)))...))), w. (21 years ago, 27-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Thanks Ross. I can't believe I forgot to post a URL. -Orion (21 years ago, 26-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Most of us know where to get it by now, but for the noobs: (URL) (21 years ago, 26-Jan-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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