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Re: Ldraw.org: Organization and look & feel
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Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:54:58 GMT
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At 08:36 AM 4/9/99 +0000, Jacob wrote:
> I have checked with our network administrator, and he said
> OK to point the "ldraw.org" domain to "hugin.risoe.dk". I am
> not sure I can allow the site to eat more than 300 Mb, but I
> hope that's enough.
I should think that 300mb would be enough. I only expect the programs to
take up 50mb at the most. As you know, sites themselves take up very
little space.
> > Also, what are your guidelines for the site being there?
> > Will we be allowed to have a repository of official LEGO
> > models in ldraw format?
>
> Yes (but I still like the idea of just pointing to
> <URL:http://www.lugnet.com/news/ldraw.cgi?lugnet.cad.dat:>).
That URL didn't load for me. I don't mind storing the files there, but I
would like to have pages that refer to the *files* there in our own look
and feel. That way users don't have to go to a lugnet page with completely
different navigation to grab a model.
> > Last night and today I sketched up how I wanted the site to look. I like
> > the light font that is displayed at the lego.com's about us section. Also,
> > their format looks good. I would like it to appear similar but different
> > in several ways. First, we will not have the yellow navigation panel on
> > the right. Second, their colors on some of the items will be changed.
> > Third, I would like to see Verdana used as the typeface given that 90% of
> > surfers out there should have it.
>
> I think I belong to the remaining 10% (I usually do :-).
:) Um, I'll send you an email with Verdana attached :P Its a Microsoft
freeware typeface. If I don't figure out how to embed it, we can always
make it available for download from the server.
> > As far as design goes, I don't want this to get overly legalistic on
> > compatibility with older browsers.
>
> No. Just make sure all pages are valid HTML[1] and - if you
> want to be polite to your host - remember that his version
> of lynx is quite new.
Ok. And I probably should know this, but what is lynx?
> > Also, what should be done about multilanguage support? Do some of our
> > multilingual listers want to translate the English versions?
>
> Probably.
Good. What languages should we give support to? Of course we should do
Danish, since Lego comes from Denmark :) My thoughts would be French,
Spanish, and German at the least. Japanese?
> > How will we keep track of the different sections of the site?
>
> Apache supports that you just request an URL like
> <URL:http://hugin.risoe.dk/> and then get different files
> depending on your language preferences and what's available.
> This system doesn't work with different files, but with
> different extensions:
What are the advantages of this system over having each language with their
own subdirectory? One of the things I would like to avoid is the specific
page index.en.html since the default language for the site would be
English. I don't feel its necessary to tack on the .en because of that. I
don't have a problem with the other languages. Please explain this system
more so that I can understand. I am not completely against this idea, but
would like the English pages to come out with a cleaner URL that just says
.html.
> > My thoughts are to have
> > it default to English and give options somewhere near the top for different
> > languages. Instead of keeping the pages in the same directory, have it
> > change the root directory to something like:
> >
> > /deutsch/
> > /espanol/
> > /français/
> > /dansk/
> /english/
>
> Not a bad idea, except that it means that the translators
> have to translate every page before the translation can be
> used.
Could you please explain the meaning of that further?
> [...]
>
> > Another quick thought I don't care either way on: Should we provide
> > documents to download in Adobe Acrobat Reader .pdf format? Acrobat is a
> > very nice compression for documents and provides near perfect results of
> > pages to either be viewed on the computer or printed out. Acrobat Reader
> > is freeware, but the program that writes the format costs USD 30. Again,
> > its just one of those random thoughts thrown in the air most likely to be
> > shot down :)
>
> We could also use plain gzipped Postscript. The compression
> is equivalent to the one Acrobat performs and the tools are
> free.
I don't think that my (Win98) PC provides a reader for gzipped postscript.
Could we do both formats? I assume the gzipped postscript is leaning more
toward use on Unix workstations, right? Acrobat seems to be the standard
for Windows. The IRS uses it for their tax forms they make available over
the internet :)
> Play well,
(this site will be a lot of fun to make) :)
Keep Building!!
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 | | Re: Ldraw.org: Organization and look & feel
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| (...) Knowing that I'm the only Turkish AFOL here in both Lugnet and RTL (and I still know only one AFOL from my country), it won't be so much helpful, but I could prepare Turkish translations if anybody wants...:-) Selçuk (26 years ago, 9-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
| | | Re: Ldraw.org: Organization and look & feel
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| (...) Jacob meant a general format (URL) nnnn is an article number. (...) That is in fact exactly what something like (URL) Note that there are two scripts in the /news/ directory -- display.cgi -- displays full article text ldraw.cgi -- serves raw (...) (26 years ago, 9-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
| | | Re: Ldraw.org: Organization and look & feel
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| (...) They do. When an HTTP client (e.g., Netscape Navigator) requests index.html, the HTTP server (e.g., Apache) sends back the data contained in index.xx.html, where xx is a language which matches a language in the list specified by the client. (...) (26 years ago, 9-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
| | | Re: Ldraw.org: Organization and look & feel
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| (...) Good. I have absolutely no problem with using an existing database residing on lugnet.com instead of creating one from scratch. Its a good way to avoid redundancy, avoid redundancy. :) (...) exactly (...) Great! Could we make the upload (...) (26 years ago, 9-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
| | | Re: Ldraw.org: Organization and look & feel
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| Tim: [...] (...) Does it work in X? (...) <URL:(URL) [...] [ Using Apache to handle multiple languages. ] (...) You get a translated page if it is translated, otherwise you get an English one. Your suggestion means that you get nothing if people get (...) (26 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| (...) Good idea. Whoever it is (I think it was Larry) who volunteered to collect the funds for the domain should post with instructions on how he wants the collection to take place. I believe when you register a domain you need to have a primary and (...) (26 years ago, 8-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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