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Re: Ldraw.org: Organization and look & feel
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Date: 
Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:36:49 GMT
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Tim Courtney (tcourtney@avenew.com) wrote:
At 12:16 PM 4/8/99 +0000, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
i think that one of the first things wee need to do is register ldraw.org.

[...]

need to get the space cleared.  Jacob, are you going to donate
hugin.risoe.dk webspace for the site?

I have checked with our network administrator, and he said
OK to point the "ldraw.org" domain to "hugin.risoe.dk". I am
not sure I can allow the site to eat more than 300 Mb, but I
hope that's enough.

Also, what are your guidelines for the site being there?
Will we be allowed to have a repository of official LEGO
models in ldraw format?

Yes (but I still like the idea of just pointing to
<URL:http://www.lugnet.com/news/ldraw.cgi?lugnet.cad.dat:>).

Last night and today I sketched up how I wanted the site to look.  I like
the light font that is displayed at the lego.com's about us section.  Also,
their format looks good.  I would like it to appear similar but different
in several ways.  First, we will not have the yellow navigation panel on
the right.  Second, their colors on some of the items will be changed.
Third, I would like to see Verdana used as the typeface given that 90% of
surfers out there should have it.

I think I belong to the remaining 10% (I usually do :-).

As far as design goes, I don't want this to get overly legalistic on
compatibility with older browsers.

No. Just make sure all pages are valid HTML[1] and - if you
want to be polite to your host - remember that his version
of lynx is quite new.

I feel that the web is developed enough
to use nested tables and plenty of (small) gif images to give it a crisp,
clean look.  We can keep the document weight of each page below 30k - and
this should load within 10 seconds on most connections because download
rates on my 56k that still connects at 31k get up to 4.1k/s.

Seems like a reasonable goal.

Also, what should be done about multilanguage support?  Do some of our
multilingual listers want to translate the English versions?

Probably.

How will we keep track of the different sections of the site?

Apache supports that you just request an URL like
<URL:http://hugin.risoe.dk/> and then get different files
depending on your language preferences and what's available.
This system doesn't work with different files, but with
different extensions:

   index.en.html - is the English version of the page.
   index.da.html - is the Danish version.
   index.es.html - is the Spanish version.
   :
   :
   index.html    - is the default version (usually a
                   symbolic link to index.en.html)

My thoughts are to have
it default to English and give options somewhere near the top for different
languages.  Instead of keeping the pages in the same directory, have it
change the root directory to something like:

/deutsch/
/espanol/
/français/
/dansk/
  /english/

Not a bad idea, except that it means that the translators
have to translate every page before the translation can be
used.

[...]

Another quick thought I don't care either way on:  Should we provide
documents to download in Adobe Acrobat Reader .pdf format?  Acrobat is a
very nice compression for documents and provides near perfect results of
pages to either be viewed on the computer or printed out.  Acrobat Reader
is freeware, but the program that writes the format costs USD 30.  Again,
its just one of those random thoughts thrown in the air most likely to be
shot down :)

We could also use plain gzipped Postscript. The compression
is equivalent to the one Acrobat performs and the tools are
free.


Play well,

Jacob

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  Re: Ldraw.org: Organization and look & feel
 
I forgot to include a link: [...] (...) Play well, Jacob 1) <URL:(URL) ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 9-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
  Re: Ldraw.org: Organization and look & feel
 
(...) definatly do not use verdana. use the deafult. i use netscape on a win95 system and do not have verdana installed. others may be the same. (25 years ago, 9-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
  Re: Ldraw.org: Organization and look & feel
 
(...) I agree. This area is really going to go hogwild (in a good way) and be muchly integrated with other DB & commerce aspects of lugnet.com. The URL(s) will even be getting simpler/nicer -- becoming (URL) and sub-categories. One sub-category in (...) (25 years ago, 9-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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  Re: Ldraw.org: Organization and look & feel
 
(...) Good idea. Whoever it is (I think it was Larry) who volunteered to collect the funds for the domain should post with instructions on how he wants the collection to take place. I believe when you register a domain you need to have a primary and (...) (25 years ago, 8-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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