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Steve Bliss wrote in message ... [ ... snip ... ] (...) There is a very good Make book available from O'Reilly & Associates, _Managing Software Projects with Make_. I have found that this book always seems to have an example for something I was (...) (25 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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Steve Bliss wrote... (...) OK. The pseudo-code reflects this now. (...) I meant "The fact that 0 BFC CERTIFY implies 0 BFC CLIP and 0 BFC CCW should be stated explicitly in the CERTIFY section in Language Extensions". The code was clear enough. (...) (25 years ago, 6-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Seems Geocities is having some trouble, and the shortcut URLs won't work. Try these instead: (2 URLs) Steve (25 years ago, 6-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hey, no rush. We all know that personal lives can get in the way of LEGO. --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if (...) (25 years ago, 6-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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here is a idea. those who want to contribute to a depository, are given the user and pass to a geocities web sight? sent stuff through e-mail ofcoarse. i am making a new sight on geocities, and can be made for a depository (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hello, It's been a while since I've posted to this forum. Unfortunately due to an increased workload in my professional life, as well as other commitments in my personal life, and things like undergoing laser eye surgery, the release of the first (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm not sure I want to do them all (though the list was much shorter than I thought it would be), but here's a start, the very first on the list. Here are the sets (that I know of) released since 1992, with black 1x1 bricks, sorted reverse on (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) Tom, Its great to hear from someone involved with one of the First teams! My ideas for LDraw and the teams would simply be for the kids to learn how to program their robot design into the computer to document its construction etc. LDraw (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.robotics)
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Sorry this is so long. I've tried to err on the side of quoting too much of Lars' message, rather than too little. Also, I've tried to be thourough in my replies. In related news, I've added a 'Current Issues' section at the top of the v4 document. (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I just returned from the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago where they held the Illinois state FIRST Lego League Mindstorms competition. FIRST is an organization that uses Lego Mindstorms to help prommote kids pursuing careers in engineering (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Todd and Joshua D. have an amazing number inventoried, between them. At least that's my suspicion. It's convincing them to make the data available in a format I can run reverse queries against that is the hard part. (25 years ago, 4-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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Steve Bliss wrote... (...) I prefer the newer with only one new meta-statement. This easily identifies commands related to BFC. However, the syntactical change doesn't solve the discussion about the CERTIFY option, see later. I have some suggestions (...) (25 years ago, 4-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) lugnet.general? lugnet.helpwanted? The current problem is that there aren't that many published inventories for current sets. So you need to hook up to someone who is A-R enough to inventory everything themselves,. Steve (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) I'm going to need to keep a vanilla installation, just for partsref generation. It's too tempting to make minor edits to part files in my regular installation. And, if I'm going to have two copies of LDraw, I'd rather have "working" and (...) (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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[should've snipped the ng list, but I didn't--couldn't decide which to keep/exclude] (...) So, as both the new Keeper of the LDraw Library and the Keeper of the Partsref Pages, I could build a make, and apply it everytime I get new candidate files (...) (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) at first i misread that as: (...) and thought to myself "wow, Steve's in a really cynical mood".. hehe.. guess i'm just projecting my own cynicism... J (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Steve: (...) I kind of like the newer approach. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I haven't gotten any nibbles, can someone suggest a group better suited to answering this question? (...) <for one part> (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) This is kludgy but might work. Details left as an exercise. Your problem is that what you want is to know when a file is *new to YOU* not what it's timestamp is. Keep two complete sets of .dat files. One is an image of the state of files, but (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) You could try the version which comes with Cynwin32: (URL) used Beta 20.1; it seems pretty stable. If you're not too keen on using the Unix sub-layer (slow), try dmake: (URL) it seems to have gone commercial -- you have to *pay* for the (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) Yep, I'm familiar with make. I even went to look for one once. Do you know how hard it is to search the net for 'make'? I never could figure out a decent set of search-words... Oh, wait. I've got a make.exe with my old copy of Turbo Pascal. (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) Are you familiar with the make utility? It allows you to describe an arbitrary set of modules, with their associated interdependencies, and then re-build only the modules which have changed and modules dependant upon them. Of course, using (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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Still discussing: (URL) and now (URL) I posted an update to the v4 spec just now. It includes the changes suggested by Jacob. Things have been quiet lately, so I want to throw out a couple of questions: Does anyone have an opinion on whether it (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That's fine with me. The only downside is applying updates. When new parts are released for LDraw, I don't update individual partsref images and pages, I just regenerate the whole shebang. So any manual edits would probably get overwritten. (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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Nephilim <jthompson@esker.com> wrote in message news:FLv94v.I82@lugnet.com... (...) I've done the same in the past. As I see it, the thoughts of the community can be broken down in the following ways: (1) The purists hate the idea of any non-LEGO (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yeah I was thinking that the third size should be a composite of four views top, left, bottom, and right. Should the floor be kept in this kind of view? Ie: Rotate Part over floor rather than 4 Cameras, nuking the floor only on the bottom (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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Excellent! After looking at them I think that other perspectives are more important than colors. Have you tried experimenting with the ambient light option in povray? I don't think l3p gives you that option but you can modify the pov files l3p (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) I Started this Several Weeks ago, I have already run Pov-Ray for the Thumbs and the Large Size. I have only the two sizes done so far. What would you call normal Size, I had not figured out a good third size any suggestions? All pngs, 128x96 (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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The winner for ldraw.org's December Model of the Month competition is Thomas Burger, with his 'Datsville LMT Out From MacArthur Tunnel' image. Check it out at (URL) Congrats Tom! -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Speaking of which... I just posted my wants list. I want hundreds of most of the items on it. Someone pointed out to me that if I could tell of sets that had large quantities of the parts I might get better responses. Given the current state (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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One thing I noticed with the DAT explorer is that POV rendered images look _MUCH_ better with the lossless PNG format thatn with JPEG. Perhaps appropriate use of the JPEG smoothing function would help the the tests I did looked bad even at 100% (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) IMHO, the best thing is having both (a) super-quick-loading GIFs and (b) high-quality POV JPEGs, and then letting the user decide which one to view. A while back, someone even suggested having spinning/rotating POV-rendered images for each (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) new (...) sunk (...) long (...) same (...) Yes there are actually (at least) three different versions of 4085 which increasingly strengthen the structure of the clip. The oldest (type I) version has the tips of the clip turned in and looks (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Kevin Loch <kloch@opnsys.com> wrote in message news:FM32ur.BwF@lugnet.com... (...) I agree. Some parts--especially those with lots of rounded surfaces--can be hard to make out in LDraw. POVRAY works much better for these parts (and for decorated (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) Cool! (...) Is there any desire to have povray rendered images for each part? I still think that would be cool, even though the ldraw versions are more useful for some things. It would also be nice to be able to either: 1. have all parts (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) I just added a statement on that page noting that direct links to the parts images are OK. Just so there's no confusion. :-) --Todd (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) No, it's OK: people can link directly to the images just as they did before at the previous location. On the splash page, it even says how to refer to the images at the new URL. --Todd (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The LDraw FAQ is pretty comprehensive when it comes to the LDraw colors. LDAO does have a color chart, showing all possible allowed combinations for LDraw, but the colors are actually generated from LDLite. BUT, I *think* I posted a "color (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ooo, didn't think about that one. Hmm. I guess you'll need to copy the images off to your own server. That's too bad. BTW, the primary reason I wanted to move off the WorldNet site was because I could never get an FTP connection to do updates. (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, like it says on the page, "To reference a part image, when you already know the LDraw number for that part, use the following URL format. (URL).gif" In other words, linking directly to these images is OK in this case. (...) These are (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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I've looked through the LDraw FAQs, and I'm casually familiar with the color palette available, but I was wondering if anyone has assembled a more-or-less comprehensive listing of the colors available for use with LDraw. (Mind you, that was all one (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I could host the images if it makes it easier for people to use it, or cheaper for LUGNET. (I don't have any restrictions on direct linking). KL (...) from (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Arguably you're going to have to make copies of the images and host them yourself. That's a downside. I didn't have too much guilt over having AT&T pay for the traffic (presumably Steve isn't paying per byte the way Todd is). (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Currently, my biggest pet peeve is 4212.dat, the 4 x 10 x 2/3 car base. The new version actually 4 x 10 x 18/24, the square section in the center has been sunk fruther in so that 2x2x2 town chairs in down to the first plate level. One long plate can (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) until (...) YAY!... love this page.. use it all the time... only Todd has a policy where set images are not to be linked to directly from LUGNET (Pause)... how will this affect those of us who link to the parts ref for piece auctions (ala (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) For this piece, the only measuring gear you need is some LEGO pieces. Check to make sure the diameter & positioning of the clip is the same on both the old and new pieces, and (assuming they are the same) modify the original file. The current (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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The LEGO Elements Image Catalog, currently at (URL), is in the process of relocating to a new home on LUGNET. See it at (URL). Right now, the catalog is at both locations. This will continue at least until the next release of new parts for LDraw. (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.announce)
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(...) One of MLCAD's great strengths is that is allows you to alter the units used in its three scales. They only default to Lego sizes. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:3843F5D9.BCB346...ger.net... (...) CSTUD.DAT? (...) cloned (...) Just be sure to change the header information (name, author, official status) in the CSTUD.DAT file. Asside from that, a copy (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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<943972405.972346@ns.cci.dk> <FM0oEv.HKM@lugnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) NO! If you DARE make clone parts you have to make all your own primitives. In fact, you can't use lines either, (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The only other thing I'd want is a "MyParts" page, where an author could update just their own entries, without scrolling through everything in the current list. Would make it easier to update stuff already added to the list. Steve (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Jonathan Wilson wrote in message <3843E48B.43C8134E@x...il.com>... (...) Yes, L3P uses a simple case-insensitive string compare of the DAT names. Only (a part of the) known primitives are substituted. L3P cannot know what some-one is going to put (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) it (...) recognized (...) named (...) Would it be all right if I simply copied the STUD.DAT file to CSTUD.DAT? More specifically, would there be any purity concerns about using the cloned primitive? Dave! (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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[ FUT lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw ] Manfred: (...) I have written Zach and asked him what is happening, but it looks like part of the problem is related to a misconfiguration of the server (I didn't get any HTTP 404 errors, only 403's). If anybody are (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.people)
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(...) Would using a cstud.dat file mean that the stud wouldn't be re-done or whatever as pov-ray promotives? -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Steve Bliss wrote in message ... (...) Right, only L3P's primitive substitute for "stud.dat" contains the logo. BTW, no-one has complained about the logos on e.g. left wings, that are implemented as a mirroring of a right wing :-) /Lars (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote: [snip] (...) Tim Courtney replied: (...) When it still was accessible for me, I've been using the Parts Tracker a lot. In my opinion the latest version of this site was working quite well (...) (25 years ago, 30-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'd say functionally-different variants are pretty important. Jamie's example of the "Plate 1 x 1 with Clip Light" is one example of an important variation. An example that has been discussed at length on L-CAD and lugnet.cad.dev at length. (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Aha! I don't remember that pain, but that sounds about right! That would certainly explain why that double-tube plate made parts connected to it so difficult to pull apart! :-( --Todd [followups to lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands] (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) I believe that would take care of the problem. CSTUD.DAT wouldn't be recognized by LDraw and LEdit as anything special--these two programs recognize files named stud*.dat as special files; LDraw substitutes stu2*.dat when the fast draw option (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'd say, brickwise, Tyco's biggest problem is they didn't round off the edges of the bricks. You thought it hurt to step on *LEGO* bricks? Those Tyco pieces were doubly painful. Also, the lack of rounding made it hard to pry the pieces apart. (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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(...) It's funny you should mention that; I had the same thought once I'd downloaded the latest version of L3P and started messing around with the quality settings. If I were to use a CSTUD.DAT file, what would have to be different about it for L3P (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Dave Schuler <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:FLtn2z.KB3@lugnet.com... (...) or (...) be (...) with (...) stirred (...) clones, (...) to (...) to (...) clear (...) If (...) that: (...) clone- (...) the (...) shouldn't (...) of (...) (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm not especially code-savvy, but I'll try to put something together without embarrassing myself! I'll mail you the link when I have something to show you. Thanks, Dave! (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ok, ok, I got it... Steve Bliss, your Great! Your LDAO fixed my problems! I had removed a few too many spaces when manually condensing the files. I will repost the dat files. Thanks anyway. Paul (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Moved to lugnet.cad.dev from lugnet.cad.dat.parts (...) this a problem on my computer, or is there something I need to fix in the dat file? (URL) the link above does not work, go to the message this was in reply to, it has the dat file attached to (...) (25 years ago, 29-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) In general, yes, we try to include variants where these are either visibly different (like solid-stud vs. hollow stud minifig heads), or functionally different. It's all a matter of priority (and access to the parts themseleves). What is most (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) LOL :) Here we go, Dave. Set up your web page with your clone libraries on it and let me know the URL. I'll link to it from the ldraw.org links page. -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in Gosh, you'll go to Heck, where (...) (25 years ago, 28-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Tim Courtney skrev i meddelandet <4.2.0.58.1999112708...mm.com>... (...) models. (...) used (...) of (...) Well, I never said anything about making the models public in .dat-format, did I? I said _documenting_ my own work (or my kid's). (...) I (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) C'mon, Tim! I'm trying to play the persecuted martyr here, and you're not letting me! 8^) Dave! (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Off topic question Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
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I'm not sure I understand your question perfectly, but I can use clones for two purposes: 1. A cool colour or shape that TLG does not supply. 2. Hacking! Building in micro-switches, making cable tunnels and such things. But I am a Lego purist in (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Off topic question Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
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(...) yes i did it once.modified part 4864. cut it in half length wize, and used it as a indycar spoiler wing seen at < www.geocities.com/tb...talia2.gif > (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Off topic question Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
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(...) Why not invert a plate in LDraw and group them together, use it as a submodel? You don't need to model something like what you described. But to answer the question, I don't know. Some people modify pieces by cutting them and such, would they (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Do people model parts that don't exist in the LEGO universe? i.e. Plates with studs on both top and bottom, or bricks otherwise shaped in ways that have no real-world analogs? Just curious - I've glued plates together to get exactly that (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Which leads to another question. If you make a model with Lego bricks mixed with Byggis [1], how will the model be identified as such, and how will the individual clone pieces be identified as such? Obviously someone with a Lego-only (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Theoretically it would. I'm still holding on to the notion that (URL) should remain Lego-pure and the Lego aspect of it should not be shoved aside. Also, I wouldn't want to do all the work for each of the other sites, there would be a (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Tim Courtney skrev i meddelandet <4.2.0.58.1999112701...mm.com>... (...) [And many has said many things in this thread...] I think you are all a bit over-reacting! Of course www.ldraw.org should _mainly_ cover the LEGO use of LDRAW, as that's what (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Legal calamities aside, wouldn't it be cool if each clone or construction system could have its own subdomain of ldraw.org? (6 URLs) would solve all the issues perfectly. --Todd (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yeah, it is a very tricky subject, and could easily go either way IMO. (...) Naw, extreme is like no BURPs, CRAPPs, Town Jr. Pieces (that's not all wrong), even minifigs, like the Lego Purists' Pages. (...) Yeah. You could even go so far as to (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Just a reminder, voting is now taking place for the December ldraw.org Model of the Month contest. Voting will continue until Tuesday, November 30, when the new winner will be announced. -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.general)
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(...) Yeah, a lot of things can change my mind on this :) I think we've discussed it enough for me to see the middle point and plant my feet down. Larry, you're right to an extent. I can't let my personal disgust towards non-Lego parts get in the (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm not against hosting imitation brand parts or libraries on ldraw.org, since LDraw's file format doesn't have any sort of LEGO-brand requirement. I'd *personally* be somewhat bothered to see non-LEGO stuff there, but I also think that it (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oh, I know you do, now. But I don't think Todd does (or maybe I'm not reading him right) and I think he's got a fair chance of changing your mind. (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) What's wrong with the current version? What problems (besides downtime) have been experienced? (...) Good question. Obviously its up to Zach to make the move, we're not stepping on any toes here. (...) :) -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I see what you're saying, but I think you're misunderstanding excluding 'parts' for 'people.' This isn't intended to exclude individuals from the group at Lugnet or from using ldraw.org. Its to keep the Lego brand aspect of LDraw and Lugnet (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) As of this point, I don't think ldraw.org should *host* clone parts packs, but it wouldn't do any harm to link to them off-site. IMASO the site should continue to promote Lego brand parts and editors which use the LDraw format, and not push (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) You're making me hungry, Todd. :) Good analogy. -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in Gosh, you'll go to Heck, where you'll face eternal darnation. (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Er, OK. I'll put that in, but it seems redundant. (...) It means that I stuffed in the pseudo-code without rewriting the syntax-specific sections. :( Steve (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Disagree. I remember trying it out Tyco in 1988 and it left a very bitter taste in my mouth -- blyecch -- and at the time I wasn't even a LEGO purist. True, Tyco was the best of the non-LEGO off-brands, but the quality still never quite lived (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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First of all, no one is trying to "pass" any clones as being the real thing. (...) Second, Tyco is NOT "crummy", it's just different. I don't use it but I think you're letting your emotions get in when you toss around "crummy". Tyco made blocks that (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) OK, here's an analogy... Hopefully this will illustrate the purist's point of view and why it's not arbitrary... You go into a restaurant and order big fat juicy third-pound burger with all the fixings, a side of french fries, and a big tall (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I haven't thought about this much and I can only speak for myself, but when I see water or skies or starry backgrounds, or fire or smoke or sand or anything like that, to me it's just "background stuff" to round out the image -- just as LEGO (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Dave, remember you're not the problem. You're just the person to bring up an issue that needs to be discussed and worked out for the future of LDraw and ldraw.org. Opinions welcome :) (...) Its good that you're agreeing about the official (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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A new group dedicated to MLCad has just been created. MLCad is a free program written by Michael Lachmann for modeling LEGO designs (or other construction systems). CHARTER/PURPOSE ===...=== lugnet.cad (group and hierarchy): Discussions of CAD (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | Re: New newsgroup for for LeoCAD
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(...) Cool! :) Can MLCad have a group too? -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in Gosh, you'll go to Heck, where you'll face eternal darnation. (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.leocad, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Centering (was: I need help with the new tread links)
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(...) Thanks for your patient answer. Dave! (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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A new group dedicated to LeoCAD has just been created. LeoCAD is a free program written by Leonardo Zide for modeling LEGO designs (or other construction systems). CHARTER/PURPOSE ===...=== lugnet.cad (group and hierarchy): Discussions of CAD (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.leocad)
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(...) It's already in a very good stage, it can do all of the basic editing commands (only a few dialog boxes and the printing routines are missing). It's located at (URL) I'm *almost* sure I mentioned that here... :) Leonardo PS: Todd, could you (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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