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    fixed part: baseplate 32 x 32 road straight with road pattern-8 studs —Jonathan Wilson
   several inportant corrections. the pattern accually goes right up to the edges now. 0 Baseplate 32 x 32 Road Straight with Road Pattern-8 Studs 0 Name: x610p01.dat 0 Author: Leonardo Zide 0 modified by: Jonathan Wilson 0 unofficial element 1 16 316 (...) (25 years ago, 9-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dat)
   
        Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Ryan Dennett
   OK here is my judgement. (...) Very good. The lines look good even in .5x 3d view, but on the front side the green lines do not extend to the edge like on the back side. Also like many of your other road plates, it's missing a fair amount of studs. (...) (25 years ago, 9-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
   straight roadplate also like many of your other road plates, it's missing a fair amount of studs. missing studs? where? (...) i do not know why this is. this is not my problem. (25 years ago, 9-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Ryan Dennett
     In 3d view, they would be the back half. Is anyone else missing studs? Ryan (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Ryan Dennett
      Why don't you look for yourself instead of being lazy I:( Ryan ***...*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***...*** (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
      i can understand that some of the parts i am constructing are crap. several things: 1. i am lousy at coordinate geometry especially in a 3d plane like ldraw. 2. i have no lego and the only person i know who has lego does not have most of the parts (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
       i have a large quantity of parts that as they stand there are no known problems with. all of them i will be sending to terry. the raised baseplate part is only the tip of the iceberg. i have lots of parts on my site that appear to have no known (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Todd Lehman
        (...) Maybe the viewing portion of your internal feedback cycle (edit -> view -> re-touch -> re-view -> re-touch -> re-view...) is different from other people viewing the parts. That is, what sorts of tools are you using to view the work as it (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
        usually what i do is have ledit open on the part as well as a text editor. i edit the part mostly using a text editor. some things like studs are easier positioning using ledit. i have checked the parts in ldlite as well. i even looked at with (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Todd Lehman
        (...) Jonathan, Please try not to take this personally -- and realize that this is only one opinion -- but if you are unable to get parts right even *with* real LEGO elements in hand, then IMHO you really should consider giving up on LDraw, or at (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
         when i said i was lousy. i ment at the formulae, not the basic math. i do not know enough to write a renderer or anything but i know enough to be able to figure out the right sizes of quads to put in to my parts. (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
        when i said i was lousy. i ment at the formulae, not the basic math. i do not know enough to write a renderer or anything but i know enough to be able to figure out the right sizes of quads to put in to my parts. i did get an A in maths for my TEE (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
        i think my brothers friend has a raised baseplate... i will possibly try and borow that. (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Tim Courtney
       (...) Yes, I also agree here. But do try with Lego in hand! Just don't push it on the group if it doesn't pan out for you. (...) Yes, truthfully, your public math class isn't gaining you many friends here. (...) Correct.... (...) Sounds like a good (...) (25 years ago, 11-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Roy Earls
        Tim Courtney wrote in message (...) Oh, GIVE me a break. "Absolutely PERFECT". Ya gotta be kiddin'! No one, NO PART, is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT! Sheezz........ (...) Got me here. Ya gotta to earn it and there's a few here who need to step back and (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jeff Boen
       (...) sorry roy, but i have to disagree with you here... take a look at the 1x2 tile (3068)... simple, elegant, and as far as i'm concerned (especially after i went back and personally put in the bottom groove) it is *perfect*.. true, there isn't (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Roy Earls
         onyx wrote in message ... (...) tile (...) went (...) RL (...) LDraw (...) to be Onyx, You may disagree, but you restate my own objection perfectly. Your example of 3068 is "perfect" "as far as I'm concerned". It shows your personal standards and (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Mike Stanley
        (...) I'd say the bar should be set at whatever level that the majority of the part authors and other longtime users think it should be set. If that is an unreasonable level... well, tough. (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Roy Earls
         Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) Mike, you "absolutely" missed the point. Everything you wrote is reasonable, except for the last two, but to my knowledge there is not a consensus on what is reasonable. If I'm to believe that all parts in (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Mike Stanley
         (...) No, I had no desire to play semantics with you and debate whether or not any part needs to be "absolutely perfect". I never used those words. What I meant to make clear, and what I think anyone with two neurons to rub together would have (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
       
            Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Todd Lehman
        (...) But your horse doesn't poop all over the public parks. --Todd (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
       to all the people who are criticising me. i will try and get a baseplate 32 x 32 raised with ramp from someone i know who might have one. if i can do that i will dig out my bits and pieces and measure the god damn part. will that make you hapy. (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Mike Stanley
        (...) <sarcasm on> You know, that's the kind of drive for excellence we knew you could find in yourself if you only looked hard enough. (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Todd Lehman
       (...) If you get it right, it will certainly make us all very happy. --Todd (25 years ago, 13-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
       how accurate should the raised baseplate be? it is accurate to about 2-3 LDU in most cases. also i notice that the big part authors (steve bliss,chris dee, john vanzwietsen etc) are staying out of this discussion. is there a reason for this? what do (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
      
           Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Steve Bliss
       (...) I can't speak for anyone else, but I know when to duck. ;) Seriously, I think I was one of the first to point out problems with part-files you had submitted. At least, I was the first during a part-voting review cycle. As for the most-recent (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Bram Lambrecht
       (...) I know from experience that it takes a lot of concentration to figure out exactly where everything needs to go. However, I think I'm pretty good at visualizing things in three dimensions, so I'm not that lousy. If you are lousy at 3-D (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jeff Boen
      (...) this line concerns me very *very* much. (...) as a matter of fact.. yes.... while you *should* be able to enjoy modeling things using the existing library of LDraw elements, if i had known all along that you are 100% sans lego i would have (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Tim Courtney
     (...) What a revelation! (...) Then why do you push work you have done using 3d coordinate geometry when you know you are lousy at it and know you spit out crap? (...) most of (...) small (...) from (...) MY (...) I do not make parts myself. But the (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
      1.what is wrong with my road curves? i am now making the curves with a sufficient number of segments to make them look good. (24 and 32). 2.i did some checking and the roadplate parts i posted posted to cad.dat are most definatly not the versions i (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Bram Lambrecht
      (...) I've had similar problems myself with cad.dat. However, I always check to make sure that the file in cad.dat shows up the same as the one in my models folder. I suggest that you do the same, especially before asking which studs are missing. (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Todd Lehman
      (...) I think the problem Bram was having was related to some very odd SMTP e-mail problem -- that's the only place we saw it, other than JosephG's and BenV's problems, which were related to a buffer overflow[1]. But if there are still any problems (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
      swuid cache is the proxy server that they have at my internet connection (murdoch university). i pulled the roadplate files off cad.dat yesterday and they are most definatly not the same roadplates i currently have in my parts folder. (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Todd Lehman
      (...) Hmm, well, that's bad. (Not the proxy server, but the chopped file.) I'm sorry that the upload feature is giving you these problems. Would you mind helping me narrow down the problem? [This offer is open to anyone who has had trouble posting a (...) (25 years ago, 11-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          (canceled) —Jonathan Wilson
     
          Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
      1. it said dat content not accepted not group does not exist. 2. i chose the largest dat file i could find, the floating astronaut picture at 200k (25 years ago, 11-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
     one last thing. are you people trying to tell me that my parts can't be made up to scratch, no matter how much fixing i do? (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Steve Bliss
     (...) I would not tell anyone anything like that. The question really isn't whether or not the *parts* can be improved. A better question would be: are you able to improve them? Part of the answer to that depends on your ability to work as part of (...) (25 years ago, 12-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Ryan Dennett
     Why don't you look for yourself. I:( Ryan ***...*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***...*** (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Terry Keller
   (...) Excuse me? Not your problem? If I understand this correctly, Ryan is saying that the walls of the plate do not appear in LEdit when viewed at some angles/scales. If memory serves me correctly, LEdit is the primary modeling tool used in LDraw. (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
   i have examined the part form all algnes in both ledit and ldlite and have tried everything to do to fix the problem. what i am saying is that the reason the walls are not showing up is not a problem with my part file... i think that it ay be a (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Bram Lambrecht
   (...) file... >i think that it ay be a problem with ledit as all the walls are there (...) Are you missing any type 2 or type 5 lines? That could really affect the way parts look in LEdit as wireframes. Also, try coloring the planes of the part (...) (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: fixed part: JW's parts —Jonathan Wilson
   all the lines that need to be there are there. there are no lines on the underside but i thikn that i can do that if necessary. (25 years ago, 10-Apr-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 

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