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  Re: How would you do it?
 
(...) You can use many lights, and still have a single shadow by making all lights but one 'shadowless' (a modifier to the POV light description). I often put a (not too bright) shadowless light at the same position as the camera, to make sure (...) (13 years ago, 2-Jun-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: How would you do it?
 
It looks to me like each model / row of models was rendered in POV-Ray individually and then PhotoShopped together. Probably removed any reflections when combined on to one image. Scott (13 years ago, 2-Jun-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: How would you do it?
 
(...) Hi Larry, I'm not much of a POV expert, but it looks to me like Jeroen used a single light source (I only see one shadow per model). I'd guess the light source is very far away (to simulate sunlight) because all the shadows cast proportionate (...) (13 years ago, 2-Jun-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  How would you do it?
 
A long time ago, Jeroen kindly rendered this image for me in POVRay (URL) the source got lost. Now I need it much much larger so I'm trying to recreate it. I am all the way there (all models positioned right, etc) except for the lighting/shadows. (...) (13 years ago, 2-Jun-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)  
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
(...) The bug in LDView means that any sloped bricks that have LGEO versions won't work if they use a color not directly supported by LGEO. Your model used color 0x6FFFFFF (which is transparent full white) for at least one brick that contained a (...) (13 years ago, 26-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
Travis, cool, many thanks, will be able to test the file tomorrow. What can I do within LDraw to avoid this prob in future times? Thx, adrian (13 years ago, 26-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
(...) I got your email, tracked down the problem, and sent you a link to a test LDView build. Thanks again. For reference, LDView was referring to sloped brick faces using LGEO's _slope variant of the color even when the color wasn't a color (...) (13 years ago, 26-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
(...) You're welcome. I got the POV files, and responded (via email) that I needed the original LDraw file in order to debug LDView. It would seem that you didn't get my email reply. --Travis (13 years ago, 25-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
Hi Travis, thanks for your offer, I sent you the file yesterday evening (european time :-) ). cheers, adrian (13 years ago, 25-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
(...) That sounds like an LDView bug. If you send me your model, I will investigate. --Travis (13 years ago, 23-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
Hi, I tried the installation, works fine, but get same error as with the tip of Larry: "No matching in 'material', undeclared identifier 'LDXColor117440511_slope'" Any idea? Thx, adrian (13 years ago, 23-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
Hi Larry, no, Ben wasn't there, I forgot the name of the guy you've visited, I will ask Ralph, maybe he remembers. Your tip with the library path helped a bit, the error I asked about doesn't show up again, but now there is a new one: "No matching (...) (13 years ago, 23-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
(...) I am the Larry behind MiltonTrainWorks.com ... and I think I have been the Larry you met in Germany way long ago. Was Ben there? (13 years ago, 18-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)  
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
Hy Larry, I am also going to try this on friday, thx. BTW, are you THE Larry I have met years years years ago for one day in Germany (forgot the name of the boy you visited, I have been there with Dö (Ralph)) and built some cool stuff together? Some (...) (13 years ago, 18-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
(...) Cool, thx, will give it a try on friday (have no access to my Mac Mini with the Windows Installation at the moment) and tell you the results. Great, adrian (13 years ago, 18-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
(...) Another approach (not necessarily better, but if you have a mostly working installation already you may prefer it, especially if your directory layout is non standard) is to go get the LGEO libs and then hand modify your master POVRAY.ini file (...) (13 years ago, 17-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)  
 
  Re: POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
(...) Your POV-Ray.ini file is missing the paths to the LGEO libraries. You might try the AIOI I have prepared: (URL) will do the job for you and I've got a new tester as well. w. (13 years ago, 16-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  POVRay Error: lg_defs.inc
 
Hi, when using POVRay (Win) I always get following error: Parse Error cannot open include file lg_defs.inc Model built in MLCad (tried Win and Mac), prepared with LDView (tried Win and Mac), always same error. POVRay for Mac unfortunately doesn't (...) (13 years ago, 16-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  DatShine v2.01 - First Windows Version
 
Available at (URL) - - - Please note that this application will only work properly if... * Installed (ie just unpacked) in <LDrawBaseDir>\Apps\DatShine directory * The Attribute Files (L*.ldr) are in <LDrawBaseDir>\Apps\...Shine\Attr directory * The (...) (13 years ago, 14-May-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: LGEO library update ?
 
(...) No one has any update on the LGEO library current status? Maybe someone is still in contact with Lutz or can directly asking him? (13 years ago, 27-Apr-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Rotating model animation help needed
 
I would like too create animations of several of my models rotating around their vertical axes and upload them to YouTube. 1. What movie codec/format should I use? 2. The number of frames should be divisible by 4 so that I get a nice view of the (...) (13 years ago, 19-Mar-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: LDConfig.ldr + L3P 1.4 + POV-Ray 3.6.2 + fastrad.inc no longer producing nice results
 
(...) There are two files in the ZIP file. Do I need to use both? -Mike (13 years ago, 19-Mar-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: LDConfig.ldr + L3P 1.4 + POV-Ray 3.6.2 + fastrad.inc no longer producing nice results
 
(...) I think that many of the POV-Ray colors were tuned by the All-In-One Installer from LDraw.org. These are tuned for rendering. The LDconfig.ldr is not tuned for rendering. It is meant for creating building instructions. For this reason, I have (...) (13 years ago, 18-Mar-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  LDConfig.ldr + L3P 1.4 + POV-Ray 3.6.2 + fastrad.inc no longer producing nice results
 
I've been trying to use the fastrad.inc script with scenes generated by the new version (1.4) of L3P that supports LDConfig.ldr. However, the results are not nearly as attractive as they were with older versions of L3P. Anyone have an idea of what (...) (13 years ago, 18-Mar-11, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  LGEO library update ?
 
Hi all ! I would like to know if someone has any news about a futur update of the LGEO library (Lutz Uhlmann's library). As it has been written on the digitalbricks.com webpage there should be "more to come". I don't know if Lutz is still reading (...) (14 years ago, 11-Nov-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  POV dat - 3626bph1 - Minifig Head with Harry Potter Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Eyeglasses and Lightning Scar Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bph1.dat 0 Author: Andy Westrate [westrate] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Unofficial_Part 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 // Inline POV code generated (...) (14 years ago, 29-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  POV dat - 3626bph4 - Minifig Head with Gregory Goyle/Harry Potter Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Gregory Goyle/Harry Potter Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bph4.dat 0 Author: Andy Westrate [westrate] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Unofficial_Part 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 // Inline POV code generated by (...) (14 years ago, 29-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  POV dat - 3626bpsc - Minifig Head with SW Grey Eyebrows & Implant Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with SW Grey Eyebrows & Implant Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bpsc.dat 0 Author: Franklin W. Cain [fwcain] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2005-01 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 // Inline POV code (...) (14 years ago, 29-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  POV dat - 3626bpa8 - Minifig Head with Evil Skeleton Skull Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Evil Skeleton Skull Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bpa8.dat 0 Author: Andy Westrate [westrate] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2009-01 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 // Inline POV code generated by (...) (14 years ago, 28-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  POV dat - 3626bp69 - Minifig Head with Headset Over Brown Hair & Eyebrows - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Headset Over Brown Hair & Eyebrows - POV 0 Name: 3626bp69.dat 0 Author: Franklin W. Cain [fwcain] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2002-04 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 // Inline POV code (...) (14 years ago, 28-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  POV dat - 3626bp39 - Minifig Head with Dark Grey Facial Hair Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Dark Grey Facial Hair Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bp39.dat 0 Author: Franklin W. Cain [fwcain] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2002-03 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 // Inline POV code generated by (...) (14 years ago, 28-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  POV dat - 3626bp7a - Minifig Head with Brown Hair over Eye and Black Eyebrows - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Brown Hair over Eye and Black Eyebrows - POV 0 Name: 3626bp7a.dat 0 Author: Thomas Burger [grapeape] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2002-04 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 // Inline POV code (...) (14 years ago, 28-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: POV Help Needed
 
(...) Aah, never mind. I realized how stupid I was to try to clip what already is much more clipped! Once again, less is more. torus{9,4.001 translate <0,17,0> clipped_by { prism {linear_sweep linear_spline 0,14,4 <4.011,19>,<-1.192,1...4.011,17>} (...) (14 years ago, 28-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  POV Help Needed
 
Once again, I'm stuck with POV. Here's the lower torused parts of a minifig head: torus{9,4 clipped_by{differenc...13,-4,13>} cylinder{<0,0,0>,<0,4,0>,9} plane{y,0}}}translate <0,17,0>} plane{y,21 clipped_by{differenc...0,21,0>,9} sphere{<0,21,0>,8} (...) (14 years ago, 28-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  POV dat - 3626bpb1 - Minifig Head with Pursed Lips and White Forehead Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
Requires unofficial primitive t16o6250.dat (URL) Minifig Head with Pursed Lips and White Forehead Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bpb1.dat 0 Author: Michael Heidemann [mikeheide] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2010-01 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL (...) (14 years ago, 28-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  POV dat - 3626bpac - Minifig Head with Tribal Paint and Frown Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Tribal Paint and Frown Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bpac.dat 0 Author: George Barnes [glbarnes] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2005-01 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 // Inline POV code generated by (...) (14 years ago, 28-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  POV dat - 3626bph2 - Minifig Head with Tan Eyebrows and Frown Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Tan Eyebrows and Frown Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bph2.dat 0 Author: Andrew Westrate 0 !LDRAW_ORG Unofficial_Part 0 // Inline POV code generated by MFHead v0.21 0 CMDLINE -C14 0 KEYWORDS Harry Potter, Hogwarts School of Witchcraft (...) (14 years ago, 28-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  POV dat - 3626bpa7 - Minifig Head with Monocle, Scar, and Moustache Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Monocle, Scar, and Moustache Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bpa7.dat 0 Author: George Barnes [glbarnes] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2005-01 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 BFC NOCERTIFY 0 // Inline (...) (14 years ago, 28-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  POV dat - 3626bpa2 - Minifig Head with Adventurers Mummy Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Adventurers Mummy Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bpa2.dat 0 Author: Franklin W. Cain [fwcain] 0 !LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2005-01 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 // Inline code generated by MFHead (...) (14 years ago, 28-Sep-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Damn! And the whole discussion is too esoteric for me to jump in>:-( JOHN (14 years ago, 10-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, FTX)  
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) To be more precise 'with the legal blessing of the Jessiman's and everyone who has ever contributed a part.' As I pointed out elsewhere in this thread one of the benefits is that someone could release a perfectly legal version of the library (...) (14 years ago, 9-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Hmm... This is reminding me of deja vu. Did you email me about this, maybe five or six years ago? Okay, okay. I'll give it a try. But if it doesn't chase those pesky kids off of my lawn, I'm going right back to the full-screen obsolescence of (...) (14 years ago, 8-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I'd agree, if that was the only benefit of the "discussion and hand-wringing", however the primary benefit of it was to get a library that could be freely distributed with the blessing of the Jessimans. (...) I don't see that it does. (...) (...) (14 years ago, 8-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Ah Ha! I knew it! When I suggested you were probably "still running the original LEDIT program on some ancient 386 ... stashed in an attic somewhere", you only denied the 386 part. You *are* still running LEDIT in somebody's attic! So I know (...) (14 years ago, 8-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I'm guilty of that blank-space-deletion in my own parts, I confess. I do most of my authoring in Excel, and sometimes it becomes helpful to sort by linetype. This has the effect of stripping out the blank lines or at least moving them around (...) (14 years ago, 7-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I agree to some extent. But now it's there, like it or not. I have very little (if any?) use of it and yes it annoys me a little. The deleting of extra blank lines (used to group lines some way related to eachother) that makes the dat code a (...) (14 years ago, 7-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) For me, the argument comes back to process vs. product, as was discussed in the previous thread. Additionally, it raises the question of whether LDraw is a tool for the end-users or a tool for the reviewers. The extended period of discussion (...) (14 years ago, 7-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I'm intrigued - the only point in that last sentence that differentiates the "indecipherable gobbledygook" from the inline POV is that the latter "yields a greatly superior output image". It's certainly no less invisible to the end-user, nor (...) (14 years ago, 7-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I know, I know. Fair call. I should have learnt years ago never to claim I'm taking my bat and ball and going home. That is lame. Please pretend I murfled both hissy fits. I find it much too difficult to resist attacks against my person and (...) (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Nowhere have you presented an argument that differ in any way from the "collective dogma," so I don't see why your argument should be treated any differently. (...) Don't tease. In your previous reply you said that you were done with the (...) (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) --snip-- So pretty much you're saying you think that anyone who disagrees with you does so not from their own reasoned perspective but because of some collective dogma. Well now that we've cleared that up I'll know never to bother with you (...) (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Speaking of ray-tracing then, I prusume... (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Quick! Somebody bring up the separation of church and state! (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
<snip> And here I was... thinking the old LUGNET was gone forever. (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray) ! 
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) You've been parroting the company line in this thread and that previous one, so even though you're not literally affiliated with the LSC, you're playing the part of cheerleader here, so it's pretty much the same thing. Your position is not (...) (14 years ago, 3-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Wow. You're totally confusing me with someone else. I've never been in the LSC, haven't been in the SteerCo for a couple of years, haven't had much at all to do with the LDraw header (other than a teensy bit to do with the licensing which, (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  POV dat - 4592 - Hinge Control Stick Base - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Hinge Control Stick Base - POV 0 Name: 4592.dat 0 Author: Steve Bliss [sbliss] 0 Unofficial Part 0 // using DAT code from LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2005-01 0 !LICENSE Redistributable under CCAL version 2.0 : see CAreadme.txt 0 // POV code by Orion (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) No, the IFPPOV-ELSEPOV-ENDPOV typically does not cover the whole file. The main idea behind *inlining* POV code is that many parts only have a small tricky/curvy section that would look better with POV code, so only e.g. 5 % of the file should (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) If we were both sitting on a bench somewhere and arguing from equal positions of power, then that statement would make sense. However, you are speaking from the position of The Mighty LSC, an entity apparently able to make decisions by fiat. (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I upload my POV enhanced LDraw dat files as replies to this post here in Lugnet: (URL) I will continue with that as long as the posts seem to be popular. If you have more Lego parts in the same spirit, they are welcome in that thread. About (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Bad simile, but ok then: I want pizza-pie and I respect those who want pizza XOR pie. Then let all three alternatives be available on the market. No Government Control over personal taste. I model in LDraw and render the final result in (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
--snip-- (...) --snip-- By that argument you dismiss the opposite perspective. You call 'facile' on any argument, no matter how strong, that disagrees with your own position. I have a very clear argument for my position: POVray is not LDraw and to (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Upload to where? If it's to a commonly-accessible LDraw-friendly site, then how do we avoid having to sift through 500 different versions of 3001.dat? And if it's to an individual's own personal site, then that's equivalent to hiding the file (...) (14 years ago, 2-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I don't know. All I know is that I export a POV file and it works well. That's pretty much how I like my software to work. (...) They could upload the files they've made. In fact, I have done so before. (...) It's more like offering people the (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Question my sanity if you must, but I'll have you know that I haven't used a 386 since 2008. I hadn't thought about the likelihood of a non-beta version being released, but as long as it supports the old syntax, then I don't care what kind of (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) LDView already has the ability to do this automatic replacement during POV export: Create a POV directory inside your LDraw directory Put p an parts directories in the POV directory Drop in POV files with the same filenames as the original (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, FTX)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Thanks, but no, I don't get irritated so no need for yet another parameter to silence certain warnings. I was just a little worried. And if a future version of L3P will no longer support inline code, I'll probably stick to 1.4 Beta - if not (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
In lugnet.cad.ray, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) See also my reply on Tore Eriksson message. It would be called 3001.pov and has the same information in it as the 'else' portion of the current dat files (although without the leading 0's, it would (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
In lugnet.cad.ray, Tore Eriksson wrote: <snip> (...) alternatives. In that case I think Don is right, just ignore the warnings and keep doing what you like. I doubt Lars will stop supporting his own LDraw meta extensions altogether. (...) The thing (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I think I've got a solution for you and Dave. Stop worrying about the messages. ;) No, really. The current version of L3P still does what you want, right? And I think we can safely predict that the next non-beta version of L3P is highly (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) But does such an export include the POV-enhanced parts in proper matrix alignment, or does the user have to figure out how to orient the part to match the output file? If the latter, then it's equivalent to not supporting the POV-Ray elements (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
--snip-- (...) LGEO was updated fairly recently (in the last two years anyway) so it's definitely being updated sometimes. The newer LDView releases also make POVray export very easy and you can add parts you've made yourself simply by editing a (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) This hits on the main issue, as far as I'm concerned. There are certain elements that simply can't be rendered well within the constraints of the official, accepted LDraw code language. My interest, of course, is in clone elements. I grant (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, FTX)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I guess there we have the really big problem. We all have our own LDraw universes, and we all use LDraw for so very different purposes, different tools of choise, different approaches, different thinking, different ways to solve problems, (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I'm not conversant with LGEO or the like; what would the filename format be for these alternate parts? That is, if a 2x4 brick is 3001.dat, what's the equivalent name of the LGEO version? I ask because I like sticking with the DAT suffix, and (...) (14 years ago, 1-Jul-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) The decision not to include POV code in LDraw part files was made by the LSC - see (URL) for the rationale. Chris (14 years ago, 30-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) I'm pretty sure the decision to disallow inline POV code in official parts was made prior to the creation of the LSC. On a side note, LDView's POV export functionality supports L3P's inline POV syntax. --Travis (14 years ago, 30-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
In lugnet.cad.ray, Tore Eriksson wrote: <snip> (...) I'm sorry I really don't, the 'if then' construction is pretty much the same only thing is the two versions are in the same file. So perhaps you are hinting on maintainability or mixed single (...) (14 years ago, 29-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) After some tough discussion some years ago, I now agree on that (although so far, I've seen nothing that comes remotely close to L3P+POV-Ray. And I doubt there will be in a foreseeable future). (...) You don't??? Are you serious? I can (...) (14 years ago, 29-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
In lugnet.cad.ray, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) As far I understand it, the main reason the LSC don't want POV code in the parts themselves is because of the 'pollution'. Because another person might want blender code or maybe even something (...) (14 years ago, 29-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) As I understand it, nearly all of the fuss was about the fact that POV-Ray is a whole separate organism not under the control of the LSC, so any "official" additions to the LDraw library that contained inlined POV-Ray code would be at the (...) (14 years ago, 29-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) A highly unpopular and controversial issue with LDRAW. You'd best create a working group to study the impact of creating your own sub-committee of an existing LDRAW committee for the purposes of resurrecting challenges to an asked-and-answered (...) (14 years ago, 28-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Let's initiate a list of signatures at once! :) /Tore (Another almost daily inlined POV-code user) (14 years ago, 28-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) Wait a minute! I use L3P and inlined POV-Ray code almost daily--don't tell me that this is being phased out? Aaaaagghh! Dave! (14 years ago, 28-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: L3P Warnings
 
(...) You should just ignore these warnings. They are meant to discourage further use, but they will still work. I should look into my old L3PPARTS project... /Lars (14 years ago, 28-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  POV dat - 3901 - Minifig Hair Male - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Hair Male - POV 0 Name: 3901.dat 0 Author: Chris Dee [cwdee] 0 Unofficial Part 0 // using DAT code from LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2009-03 0 // using POV code from Anton Raves Library version 0532 2007-07-29 0 // Inlined POV code complies with (...) (14 years ago, 26-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  L3P Warnings
 
Using L3P v1.4 Beta, I revieve a lot of warnings from my dat files with inline POV code: WARNING "3901.dat" Line 11: This keyword is deprecated: 0 L3P IFNOTPOV WARNING "3901.dat" Line 458: This keyword is deprecated: 0 L3P ELSEPOV WARNING "3901.dat" (...) (14 years ago, 26-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Rendering farm world wide
 
Hi to all I made a facebook group about povray I whould like to have staff and members so we can help each other when it come to rendering. the group is: Rendering farm world wide I got the idea from a project about a network that prevents quakes (...) (14 years ago, 18-Apr-10, to lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  POV dat - 3626bpse - Minifig Head with SW Scout Trooper Black Visor Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with SW Scout Trooper Black Visor Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bpse.dat 0 Author: Andrew Westrate 0 Unofficial Part 0 // Inline POV code generated by MFHead v0.01 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2009-08-11 0 CMDLINE (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  POV dat - 3626bps5 - Minifig Head with SW Smirk and Brown Eyebrows Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with SW Smirk and Brown Eyebrows Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bps5.dat 0 Author: Franklin W. Cain 0 Unofficial Part 0 // Inline POV code generated by MFHead v0.01 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2010-02-22 0 KEYWORDS (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  POV dat - 3626bps3 - 0 Minifig Head with SW Small Black Eyebrows Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with SW Small Black Eyebrows Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bps3.dat 0 Author: Franklin W. Cain 0 Unofficial Part 0 // Inline POV code generated by MFHead v0.01 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2010-02-22 0 KEYWORDS (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  POV dat - 3626bps2 - Minifig Head with SW Brown Eyebrows Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with SW Brown Eyebrows Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bps2.dat 0 Author: Franklin W. Cain 0 Unofficial Part 0 // Inline POV code generated by MFHead v0.01 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2010-02-22 0 KEYWORDS face, (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  POV dat - 3626bphb - Minifig Head with Severus Snape Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Severus Snape Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bphb.dat 0 Author: Andrew Westrate 0 Unofficial Part 0 // Inline POV code generated by MFHead v0.01 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2010-02-22 0 KEYWORDS Harry Potter, (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  POV dat - 3626bpao - Minifig Head with Big Eyes, Curv Eyebows, Lt.Red Mouth - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Big Eyes, Curv Eyebows, Lt.Red Mouth - POV 0 Name: 3626bpao.dat 0 Author: Michael Heidemann <mikeheide@web.de> 0 Unofficial Part 0 KEYWORDS Jing Lee 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2010-02-22 0 // 2004-11-28 (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  POV dat - 3626bp62 - Minifig Head with Ice Planet Messy White Hair - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Ice Planet Messy White Hair - POV 0 Name: 3626bp62.dat 0 Author: Bernd Broich 0 Unofficial Part 0 // Inline POV code generated by MFHead v0.01 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2010-02-22 0 KEYWORDS Space, Ice (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  POV dat - 3626bp61 - Minifig Head with Ice Planet Moustache and Eyebrows - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Ice Planet Moustache and Eyebrows - POV 0 Name: 3626bp61.dat 0 Author: Bernd Broich 0 Unofficial Part 0 // Inline POV code generated by MFHead v0.01 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2010-02-22 0 // 2004-04-15 (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  POV dat - 3626bp40 - Minifig Head with Messy Hair Female Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Messy Hair Female Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bp40.dat 0 Author: Franklin W. Cain <fwcain@yahoo.com> 0 Unofficial Part 0 // Inline POV code generated by MFHead v0.01 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2010-02-22 0 (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  POV dat - 3626bp7c - Minifig Head with Blue Wrap-Around Sunglasses Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Blue Wrap-Around Sunglasses Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bp7c.dat 0 Author: Andrew Westrate 0 Unofficial Part 0 // Inline POV code generated by MFHead v0.01 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2010-02-22 0 CMDLINE (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  POV dat - 3626bp7b - Minifig Head with Blue Sunglasses Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Blue Sunglasses Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bp7b.dat 0 Author: Andrew Westrate 0 Unofficial Part 0 // Inline POV code generated by MFHead v0.01 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2010-02-22 0 CMDLINE -C14 0 (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  
 
  POV dat - 3626bp6f - Minifig Head with Female Eyes with Red Lips Pattern - POV  [DAT]
 
0 Minifig Head with Female Eyes with Red Lips Pattern - POV 0 Name: 3626bp6f.dat 0 Author: Paul Easter 0 Unofficial Element 0 // using DAT code from LDRAW_ORG Part UPDATE 2005-01 0 // Inline POV code edited to comply with L3P v 1.4 2010-02-22 0 (...) (14 years ago, 22-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)  


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