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Re: Shiri - A one time thing?
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Thu, 26 Jul 2001 19:44:30 GMT
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In lugnet.people, Eric Joslin writes:
> In lugnet.people, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
> > recognize when someone else is pointing out what, for all appearances, is a
> > stupid and arbitrary policy, enforced blindly and with a willful ignorance.
> That's not what you're doing, unfortunately. You're choosing to throw insults
> around over a policy that was decided on for good reason.
Insults...? Okaaaay, hold that thought.
> I won't bother going
> into those reasons yet again- they are well documented in several threads on
> Lugnet. You can find them yourself, I'm sure.
I found them. (1) I was quite surprised to read them, too.
You claim to dislike being a judge of people, and yet you are being a judge
in a fairly callous way IMHO. Perhaps you could find better ways to limit
entry into such an exclusive club, that would help reduce the "legal
liability" problem even more.
You could ban people with certain health conditions, for example, so you
won't be liable for an ambulence call and all those pesky questions, if
someone were to fall ill suddenly.
Perhaps a ban on all persons with certain political affiliations so you
wouldn't be liable for the consequences of any violent pro-life/pro-choice
arguments that pop up.
I know, you can bar for life anyone who's even considered buying K'Nex or
MegaBlox.
These make more sense than barring entry to minors on the excuse that they
can't legally vote yet or because there are vague and murky guardianship issues.
> You have the right to express your opinion, and I have the right to defend
> myself and others in NELUG when we are referred to as "stupid" and "willfully
> ignorant".
Mmpf stuffing words in my mouth. Tastes kinda like chicken.
I said that the policy appeared to be stupid and appears to be enforced with
willful ignorance. I never said that the members of NELUG are stupid and
willfully ignorant. If that's insulting to you, fine. I will make note of
the fact that you did find it insulting and disrespectful and somehow allows
you to put words into my mouth, and so I will use softer words for you if
you wish.
But when you attributed the personal insult to me, it was soooo tempting to
let it stay.
Believe me, it isn't my intent to denigrate you or NELUG for your choice in
this matter, but I can hardly express my opinion of your treatment of Shiri
without doing so a little. And I don't mean to revive this pointless
debate, since I stand little chance to change your minds and a big chance of
pissing off Shiri. But -- come on people! I'm sure there are bigger things
for you to fret over than whether your group is too good for some people.
Cheers,
- jsproat
1. http://news.lugnet.com/org/us/nelug/?n=785 among others, searched for
"NELUG minors"
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Message has 4 Replies:
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| Jeremy, For a guy who says he doesn't mean to revive this pointless debate, you're talking a lot about it. Now. saying nothing about any debate, I'll simply state that as a NELUG member, I find your spouting off in our general direction offensive. (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
| | | Re: Shiri - A one time thing?
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| (...) snip of a few suggestions, including a scandalous misspelling of "MEGA BLOKS" (...) In the previous discussion I was one of the people who (as an outsider) felt that the group was making an unfortunate choice in barring Shiri from meetings, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
| | | Re: Shiri - A one time thing?
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| It just wouldn't be me if I didn't interject myself uninvited into the conversation. While I whole heartedly agree with Jeremy concerning the short sitedness of a policy that blindly and uniformly excludes people based on age, inspite of talent. (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
| | | Re: Shiri - A one time thing?
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| (...) Sure. (...) Actually, no, we aren't. We set an age limit and have decided to keep it. That judges no one in any way. As has been said before, to make an exception for Shiri would mean that we were, essentially, judging anyone that came after (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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| | Re: Shiri - A one time thing?
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| (...) No, it's not fine to be disrespectful of someone because they are younger than 18 years of age. Unfortunately for the position you are trying to take, having a policy that our group is only for people over the age of 18 isn't being (...) (23 years ago, 26-Jul-01, to lugnet.people)
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