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Re: A one time thing?/community
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lugnet.org.us.nelug
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Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:06:06 GMT
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In lugnet.org.us.nelug, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
> Any effort to affect NELUG policy may be fruitless, but this topic is very
> much still open for discussion.
Why follow this up to off-topic.debate? It's actually off-topic for the
.off-topic groups, whereas it's on-topic for lugnet.org.us.nelug. Just because
you're debating something, don't knee-jerk assume it should go to the off-topic
groups...
At any rate: Yes, you can discuss it. Feel free. But how often do you feel
that NELUG should re-visit the issue? Would you be happier if we voted on the
issue at every meeting? Or perhaps we should all close each Lugnet post with
our current vote on the matter?
Or is your answer "you should keep re-voting until you see things my way"?
NELUG was formed to be a group of adult LEGO enthusiasts. That is what we
decided on at the very first meeting, and has always been the focus of NELUG.
You might not like that, but it works for us. Why do you feel that how *you*
think we should run our group is more valid than how *we* choose to run our
group?
I know that it is tempting to cast NELUG as "the bad guys" in this situation.
After all, we are a group, and Hollywood has always taught us that the
down-trodden single person is the protagonist, and the big bad organisation of
people is the antagonist, right? But in real like things often get a lot
messier, and this is definitely one of those cases.
NELUG is a group of people who came together and formed a club for adult
enthusiasts of LEGO. Clearly, the word "adult" means different things to
different people, but an age limit of 18 was settled on to keep things focused
in the "adult" spectrum. NELUG is an active group, both in terms of meetings,
taking part in events *inside* the LEGO community, as well as *outside*. In
many ways, we have been successful, and I feel comfortable speaking for the
vast majority of NELUG when I say that we are happy with things the way they
are. Being a group for adults is fairly integral to the core of what NELUG is,
and most members of the group are simply not interested in changing that rule
and possibly upsetting that dynamic.
(The only reason I feel comfortable speaking for "the majority of NELUG" in
this matter is that in a relatively recent debate, the members of NELUG
*unanimously* voted to keep the age limit in place, and the membership roster
has not changed much since then. For more information, see
http://news.lugnet.com/org/us/nelug/?n=785).
NELUG is not standing in the way of a separate, all-ages LEGO organization
starting in our area. In fact, most members of NELUG have stated that they
would not only seek membership in, but also support such an organization.
NELUG is also not standing in the way of people who aren't in NELUG having a
LEGO community to meet and socialise with. As an example, I would point to:
http://news.lugnet.com/org/us/nelug/?n=212
a non-NELUG gathering in which several NELUG members met with (gasp!) people
under 18. Two of them, even! Crazy. I know there are other examples, as
well- this one springs to mind for me for fairly obvious reasons.
So... what is all the outrage about? What effect of NELUG's age limit is so
horrific that you feel compelled to speak out against it, as opposed to, say,
spending time on self-improvement, or finding a *REAL* atrocity to speak out
against? It may not be exactly how you would choose to set up and run a LEGO
club, but why do you feel that your views on how to run our club are more valid
than ours?
eric
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