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Re: Am I the only person who finds Lego CAD systems infuriating?
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Fri, 2 Sep 2005 00:55:43 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Don Heyse wrote:

> FYI while the committees don't produce the programs, they do provide a
> vehicle for the developers to accumulate and share ideas.  The file
> format is perhaps the most visible product of this.  Without the
> organization, none of the programs would be able to share their data.
> It's not a perfect process, but it's better than anarchy.  Oh wait,
> perhaps you prefer anarchy?  Is your own private CTCAD program almost
> finished?  I can't wait to see the pictures.  It must be really good.

I think you're missing the point of the original post:  All this LDraw talk has
produced nothing to effect change on the user interface of the actual software
programs which I (and several others now) have difficulty with.

If you really wish to bring the argument of whether I prefer anarchy or
commmittee, anarchy seems to do just as well as committee when it comes to
building better UIs in this product category.  I could take six feral children
and give them a the Forms Editor in Visual Studio.  They spend an hour making
random interface designs.  That's still a lot better than anything the committee
came up with.

> > And therein lies the rub: You can't product manage volunteer
> > developers, especially not in something most don't really prioritize
> > or understand (user interface) well anyways.
> 
> Hmm, is that the problem?  You're angry because you (with your valuable
> expertise) are not a member of some committee?  If so, you should have
> nominated yourself.  Or better yet, start your own usability committee,
> then develop your own program, and show us the results of your genius.

No, I think you're putting words in my mouth.  I have no desire to part of a
committee and I don't think making a committee would help.  That's what I'm
saying:  Committees in general don't help with the usability of free software,
and they usually can't control feature sets either.

> Ahh, now we're getting somewhere.  Larry is on committee and you dislike
> him.  It's back to kindergarten again.  Why don't you take your "lack of
> respect" somewhere else.  We know what this is really all about.
> Am I wrong?  Prove it by dropping the whining tone and the disrespect
> nonsense and tell us something we don't know.

No, as much as I dislike Larry, this one isn't about him.  All I'm saying is
LDraw is hard to use and no amount of committees are gonna help.

> PS.  If anyone *really* wants to talk about usability, there are plenty
> of ideas to start with here:
> 
>   http://karimnassar.com/design/products/artemis2000.pdf

That's a really nice high level specification.  Was that the product of the
LDraw working groups/committees?

Calum



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