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Re: Am I the only person who finds Lego CAD systems infuriating?
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Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:31:54 GMT
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So,
I had this HUGE rebuttal to Don's post, and I swear the commuter
crashed just before I hit send. I took it as a sign that it was TOO
HARSH. so I'm going to summarize it with this:
----snip-----
Don,
When you are done servicing larry, why dont you get off your knees and
learn to use a lugnet filter so that you dont have to read this
newsgroup anymore.
Chris
Don Heyse wrote:
> You know, I've been watching this thread for a while now, hoping
> some useful ideas might pop out of it, but I'm really having my
> doubts now.
>
> In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Calum Tsang wrote:
>
> > But I'll say up front, my lack of respect for these committees ain't
> > keeping them from effectively building more usable tools. That's
> > because those committees have zero power in actually making the
> > tools any better: It's up to the actual program authors to do such a
> > thing. Unless those committees can direct developers to make direct
> > changes (eg, direct pipe to the development channel) to user
> > interface, anything else is just putting "lipstick on the pig" (eg,
> > tutorials, as helpful as they are).
>
>
> FYI while the committees don't produce the programs, they do provide a
> vehicle for the developers to accumulate and share ideas. The file
> format is perhaps the most visible product of this. Without the
> organization, none of the programs would be able to share their data.
> It's not a perfect process, but it's better than anarchy. Oh wait,
> perhaps you prefer anarchy? Is your own private CTCAD program almost
> finished? I can't wait to see the pictures. It must be really good.
>
>
> > Frankly, if I had spent years writing "CTCAD" or "CDraw", the last
> > thing I would do was to agree to implement anything the LDraw
> > Committee of Something or Other "voted" me to do.
>
>
> Hey now, just because *you're* a selfish, egotistical asshole doesn't
> mean everyone else is. Why not contribute something useful, or do
> everyone a favor and just go away. Go pee in your own pool. And I
> don't mean here, because we can still see you.
>
>
> > And therein lies the rub: You can't product manage volunteer
> > developers, especially not in something most don't really prioritize
> > or understand (user interface) well anyways.
>
>
> Hmm, is that the problem? You're angry because you (with your valuable
> expertise) are not a member of some committee? If so, you should have
> nominated yourself. Or better yet, start your own usability committee,
> then develop your own program, and show us the results of your genius.
>
>
> > Or how about the list archives?
> >
> > # [LdrawMembers] 2005 LDraw.org Steering Committee election is now open
> > larry.pieniazek at ascentialsoftware.com
>
>
> Ahh, now we're getting somewhere. Larry is on committee and you dislike
> him. It's back to kindergarten again. Why don't you take your "lack of
> respect" somewhere else. We know what this is really all about.
>
> Am I wrong? Prove it by dropping the whining tone and the disrespect
> nonsense and tell us something we don't know.
>
> Don
>
> PS. If anyone *really* wants to talk about usability, there are plenty
> of ideas to start with here:
>
> http://karimnassar.com/design/products/artemis2000.pdf
>
> Just take it to the cad newsgroup. This place smells like a toilet.
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