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Re: Quiet in here
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Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:39:32 GMT
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Bill,
Bill Farkas wrote:
> > Well, most Americans believe that as well, but some of us have foolish
> > optimism every now and then! : )
> >
> > Scott S.
> In response to both of you I would say that the pessimism should not be
> expected and that the optimism is not foolish.
Bill, I was just throwing a mild jest at Selçuk, I am a pessimist
anyway, but I have run into so many people that have this attitude, it
is hard sometimes, especially when you dabble in politics as much as I
do.
> Our "system" is very unique
> here. The "system" is great, the current bunch who occupy it may not be. Yet I
> still have faith in the system.
I agree! : ) I have faith in the system as well, just a healthy disgust
for the whole thing sometimes.
> The way it was intended to work is that the
> more lawyerly types were to run for senate and be more deliberate, hence the
> six year terms; the average Joe was to run for the house, hence the two year
> term - turnover was to be high keeping the citizen's best interest in the
> forefront. The current problem, in my opinion, is career politicians who have
> become like Frankenstein's monster - once created they seek self preservation.
> What we need is term limits. We as voters could make a difference if we stopped
> being so self centered, thinking about how much pork spending we can get - not
> thinking about how much freedom we relinquish when our taxes go higher and
> higher.
I agree with term limits as well, but it will require a national move,
not a state one. The Supreme Court threw state term limits out multiple
times. Believe me Bill, I have been agreeing with you 100% so far, so
you have a friend on this side of the debate!
Scott S.
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| (...) In response to both of you I would say that the pessimism should not be expected and that the optimism is not foolish. Our "system" is very unique here. The "system" is great, the current bunch who occupy it may not be. Yet I still have faith (...) (24 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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