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Re: Quiet in here
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Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:08:17 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > That's interesting, Larry. Why do you that?
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> Because with a rigged ersatz 2 party system, it's sometimes the only
> time I get to influence the decision. Influencing who the nominee is may
> have a bigger impact than voting in the general. In NY especially, I
> lived in heavily democratic areas. The demo primary was the real
> election, the general was just for show.
>
> Ditto for here in West M except c/D/R/
Hmm... well, the system is rigged, but like most things, outside of
revolution, or a major economic upheaval, I don't think much will
change. I just hope the leftists are kept at bay.
I would never mess with any other party's primary or whatever. I just
don't think it is right, but you are free to do so.
> Besides, I vote L in the general.
I thought so anyway.
> > > If Engler had any sense he'd get behind a candidate that can draw
> > > crossover voters instead of one that panders to the foaming fanatics
> > > like dubya does.
> >
> > Man, Larry. And I thought the leftists on here were bad.
I think we have discussed here foaming fanatics here on other posts, so
I digress.
> For a sec there I thought you were going to call me a liberal... A
> charge I'd gladly embrace... me and TJ.
Well, a classical liberal as opposed to to leftist liberal of today. Wo
is TJ, by the way?
> So you like dubya, huh??? What? You don't think dubya's a machine
> candidate, a poltroon who was born with a spoon up his nose? Like I
> said, Bob Jones and his crowd can bite me. Further...
I am not thrilled with George W. Bush, I like Alan Keyes the best, but I
don't think the Republican party is ready for a black candidate as of
yet. I think we need for a generation or two to die off. Sad, I really
like him, I'd support him in a minute.
> That whole flag thing disgusted me. dubya was pandering to the racists.
> And you know my stance on the civil war, the south was perfectly
> justified in seceding and John Brown was perfectly justified in arming
> the slaves to kick some plantation owner butt... At this point that darn
> flag is a symbol of racism, not state's rights.
Well, I think the whole flag thing is stupid, it is a hot potato, and
everyone is mad about it. I think a lot of people have to get over it
and move on. I am not too familiar with John Brown, and the south did
have a right to succeed, but the war is over, the slaves are free, and
we should move on.
> I just want to see the machine brought down. McCain is not a machine
> candidate.
I think he is, in another fashion. I just think he is going to get
slaughtered if he gets the nomination, because he does have some stuff
that won't hold up to the light, he is just the presses darling right
now. As soon as it is over, and if he gets the nod, he is going to get
nuked on campaign finance, and other issues. I respect him tremendously,
but I don't agree with him on a lot of issues.
> Not like I care, really, there's not a lot of difference between R and
> D... but dubya, he's the worst serious candidate since Pat Robertson
> ran.
Well, I think you have a big bias against religious right people, Larry,
I digress on that because I am tired of fighting about it, but I think
Dole was one of the worst, actually.
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> > Then why do you bother at all? Why not just vote for Gore and get it
> > over with? I am tired of hearing that Democrats and Republicans are are
> > the same, they are not.
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> Both major parties are evil, just in different ways.
How so?
> And when it comes
> to rigging elections so no other party can get a toehold, they are 100%
> identical.
I really don't think the Libertarian party could get a toehold, simply
because of the debates on here. I don't think anyone wants to be
responsible for their actions, I think most people want the government
to control everything. I like a lot of things about the Libertarian
party, but I have some disagreements with them, I feel the same about
the Republicans.
> I'll say this, I ain't very keen on McCain's campaign finance "reform"
> stuff. But Bush's way of trying to counter it was way lame. Makes me
> wonder if I shouldn't support Alan Keyes. He's loony tunes when it comes
> to personal behaviour but at least he's pro free speech, pro 2nd
> amendment and anti tax.
Loony tunes, huh? See above. I really like Alan Keyes, however.
> Naa... Where he's right about something, the LP was there first, and
> where he's wrong about something, he makes me as ill as the rest of
> them.
Well, everything about these kinds of things makes me ill, and sometimes
I wish those Soviet Missiles would have come in and ended everything any
ways.
Scott S.
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