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Re: Quiet in here
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Date: 
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:50:52 GMT
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Bill Farkas wrote:

All this talk about right-wing fringe groups, what about the far more radical
left-wing fringe groups: feminists, homosexuals, environmentalists, etc.
Environmentalists have carried out numerous acts of violence against HUMAN
BEINGS for the sake of TREES!

Just being a homosexual or an environmentalist makes you a left wing
fringe group??? Surely you didn't mean that. I'm an environmentalist, I
recycle, I give scads of cash to the Nature Conservancy, and I try to
buy green whenever it makes economic sense to do so. Please don't pigeon
hole me.

Regardless of what any of these people believe,
they are citizens and have the grand right to vote. I think if we treat people
as individuals, and not as groups, the system would function far better.

OK, now you're making sense.

But I repeat, there are fringe groups on both sides.

Dubya is pandering to the groups on the right a lot more than anyone
else is pandering to groups on either side. He's a twerp, and he's not
even as competent as his father, who'd I put in the bottom quartile of
presidents, he screwed up the Reagan revolution and lost the war in Iraq
from timidity. Moron.

And to Scott, I can very well rail against the religious nutcases who
screw things up on a regular basis here in Ada just as easily as I can
rail against against the leftist nutcases who screw things up in metro
Detroit.

Remember, it was religious zealots right here in Kent County Michigan
who hounded a man out of his job and ultimately to his death merely
because of his sexual preferences. My issue with Alan Keyes is that he
ultimately thinks that certain behaviours are sinful and therefore need
to be legislated against. Morality of that sort (where what we are
talking about is consensual behaviour) is not the perogative of the
state to legislate.

If Barry Goldwater were 30 years younger and alive today, I'd vote for
him in a second. THERE'S a republican worth supporting. Small
government, lassez faire economics, tolerant and not pandering to the
Moral Majority.

--
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  Re: Quiet in here
 
Larry, (...) No, I think what Bill is saying is that there are many nuts, on both sides, through a variety of causes, and the like. But there is a significant bias towards the right wing religious groups, some justified, most not. You do not see the (...) (24 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) radical (...) No more than you meant that anyone religious is a right wing extremist. The problem in this matter is that only the outrageous get the attention and taint the entire issue. (...) Morality tanscends the state. It's not just a (...) (24 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Quiet in here
 
(...) Oh, I almost forgot...You honestly don't think Al Gump is pandering?! IMO, he is pandering more than anyone. Now, he's playing the race card, again. That's not pandering?! How 'bout a guy, who in local politics was pro-life and fervently so; (...) (24 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Quiet in here
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Being a third worlder, I follow this "Foofoo is better than Blahblah" kind of debates between you, USians, that consider politicians with a kind of amaze..:-) Here in our country things are very clear and (...) (24 years ago, 25-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) All this talk about right-wing fringe groups, what about the far more radical left-wing fringe groups: feminists, homosexuals, environmentalists, etc. Environmentalists have carried out numerous acts of violence against HUMAN BEINGS for the (...) (24 years ago, 24-Feb-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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