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(...) I don't think I mentioned the gov't takig over the entertainment industry--I was talking about people getting paid what they're worth, or what their product is worth. Paying Arnold 20 mil to star in a movie that makes 15 mil in total isn't the (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The free market only works between natural persons, once you allow fictitious persons (i.e. deathless corporations) into the marketplace you have killed freedom of trade and replaced it with the heavy gravity of monopolistic leviathans with (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Here is a great example of some profound fundamental differences between the Right and Left. Anytime you talk of "implementing" something, what you really mean is for the government to take it over and control it. That in my mind is not the (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The problem with that is the "creative" accounting the studios use to show that movies don't actually make money. Spider-Man grossed over $400 million and yet the studio told Stan Lee that it barely broke even. (URL) Many things have to (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yeah, elsewhere in this thread I mentioned the same thing. If one considers the elmination of the middlemen publishers/distributors then the creator reaps the ENTIRE reward of what is being offered by the Library. Let's say an artist creates a (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I would like to see a revolution in the entire entertainment field based on something like this. Instead of paying an actor 20 mil to make a picture, pay the actor(s) based on the revenue that the motion picture makes (a la Nicolson in (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, there's even more to it than that. Whether retail outlet or library, real world buildings as stores of information provide jobs for a whole plethora of other people: salesclerks, maintenance persons, cashiers, librarians, contractors, (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:HGvwK1.wIv@lugnet.com... (...) library (...) media to (...) charge (...) licensed (...) case. (...) were (...) and into (...) not (...) could (...) user) (...) works (...) would (...) (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Do IP rights have to be bought the way they are now? The reason this library idea is very cool is because it follows the law of today, yet gets more media to more people...right? Why not just set up this giant media database but charge (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No argument there, it was just an example of wealth from someone whose supposed career is making music. Her real career is more truthfully hypnotizing youth culture with her boobs so that they buy into a fake Barbie & Ken music fantasy of (...) (21 years ago, 22-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:HGuL5F.1xox@lugnet.com... (...) defeat fair (...) there is (...) I say DRM is bad because I just can't imagine a form of DRM that doesn't expand outwards away from the purposes outlined (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Tom: I found much of your post deeply interesting and thought provoking. Your idea of the giant archive/database is truly compelling and shows the enormous flaw in the many schemes that publishers are pursuing. Sure, the publishers are pursuing the (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmmmmm, is it morbid just to like a big kaboom? I like the kaboom of fireworks. Admittedly, .22 are a simple crack, a 9mil is more of a bang, and you have to get into something bigger than that to even rate a boom much less a kaboom! But yes, (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Why would we say that? At least a few, if not many, US states have SHALL issue laws for CCW permits. Including my new home state, FL. File for a permit, pass a test, and they can't deny you the permit if you are not a felon or mentally unbalanced. (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I have read the ToS, twice, and I am sure it is not a violation. And I was sure the point of the internet was to connect all web pages anywhere in the world, and not to discourage doing so. (...) Freedom of speech. (...) What do I do? Go (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You know what, I am sorry about what I wrote. I was just really angry at the time, and I would usually never write it in a Lugnet post, or anywhere for that matter. (...) Before or after the Yahoo takeover? I've heard Geocities went downhill (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was listening to the DJ on Q107 this morning... He was joking around and told a few 'newfie' jokes. Then a song, then he comes back laughing... "Just got an e-mail from someone who didn't want his name mentioned. The e-mail goes on to say (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:HGs841.9Fu@lugnet.com... (...) having (...) to do (...) part (...) web (...) LOL... "you suggest I look at something else..." Well, yeah!!! ;) Nah, see the real problem is that I didn't (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:HGsF9B.1CsM@lugnet.com... (...) nightmare of (...) you (...) some (...) Icann (...) No they certainly are not clean uninstalls! I never could get rid of the browser bar. Every time I (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Scott Costello" <scottcos@spamfree.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HGsJD5.1yGJ@lugnet.com... (...) what (...) You know, that's an interesting point. I should look at the Mac installation instructions more often for things like that... It's kind (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message news:HGsCoH.zI3@lugnet.com... (...) on (...) I'd like to counter that with "Evil will always triumph over Good because Good is Dumb." -- Dark Helmet, "Space Balls" (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A very interesting link - thank you, Richard. I shall use it for future reference. After some really superficial reading, I can now at least pretend to know why the term "common law" is so... uncommon to me: according to one of the earlier (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So children living there are responsible for their parents choice of having a job there? If a little girl gets a fractured leg and her parents are poor, does this mean she is responsible and that she deserves not to be treated for her injuries (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well yes it did. Look at the thread going on. Added something to the debate? You bet ! As for your comments, I won't even answer them. I guess you are better suited than me to know what is a cheap shot. I stand by what I said : your comment (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wasn't involved in the setup, I know the answer was found in the Mac installation section. If anyone is interested email me and I will find out what we did. Scott C. (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Once you have your initial screenname, pass, etc. you never need to install their junk again, the problem is getting the initial information. I dunno, our customer service person refused to provide us with or create such information in another (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Antiwar groups turn their focus to Bush (URL) ''One president said I did not have sex with that woman' and he got impeached,'' said Representative Jose E. Serrano, Democrat of New York. ''Another president lied to the American people, to Congress, (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Agree with all that, but let me warn you MSN is worse. We signed up with the SBC Yahoo DSL service here at the office, but we were able to use a router and some creativity to sneak around having to install all their extra garbage. Scott C. (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Gonna answer Tom later in the day, but for now I wanted to point out the first DVD I have ever seen advertised for the film in question as seen here: (URL) And yes, I already bought one. Hopefully, it's not just another scam despite that fact (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Wow! Truer words were never posted. It was like one long horrible nightmare of software I didn't want or need just to sign on for the first time, just as you have written. And the uninstalls are not too clean no matter what. I ran some anti-virus (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella, But chiefly on the just, because The unjust steals the just's umbrella." Just a quotation I saw on another website. Dave K (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Arrrrr, but where would we be wi'out Robert Newton's scenery-chewin' iconic pyrate performance, ya swab! Pronouncin' our Rs as Hs like some dandified lubber, 'stead of pronouncing 'em so far back in our throats that we near swallow 'em, that's (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sorry, you haven't refuted much of anything in this debate, you can't just dismiss Jefferson as irrelevant and consider that a refutation. In essence, that's what you're doing. (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Really? I went with the local cable company's cable modem, and besides having DHCP running (it was from all my years of LAN network games) I didn't have to do a thing to my PC. Plug it in, and et voila! Internet at high speed. Oh, and with (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You da man!!! (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) Sorry Larry, I 'm calling you on this one. All points thrown at me, acknowledged and refuted, as far as I can see, and went beyond. And yet the points I made were ignored, dismissed (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Not so secret vices Was Re: Secret Vices (was Re: Swift was Right!)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) Ooops, ftx fomratted! For me -Commodore products, 'specially the 64 -Sailor Moon and Utena -Babylon 5 -Karen McDougall -watching Clooney in "Oh Brother..." -pre "ILM" sci fi movies (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) For me -Commodore products, 'specially the 64 -Sailor Moon and Utena -Babylon 5 -Karen McDougall -watching Clooney in "Oh Brother..." -pre "ILM" sci fi movies like "The Day the Earth (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:HGrsA7.BA2@lugnet.com... (...) animated (...) own it (...) friend (...) seeing as (...) the (...) A fascinating case. Personally, I say you own it since you payed money for it, but I (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:HGrJ2o.1H9o@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) at (...) things (...) of (...) has (...) ordinary (...) exclusive (...) I read an interesting slashdot article not too long ago about a (...) (21 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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