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Subject:	Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:37:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: > There, I feel better. Did your comment actually add anything to the debate <or > was it just a chance for a cheap shot? Well yes it did. Look at the thread going on. Added something to the debate? You bet ! As for your comments, I won't even answer them. I guess you are better suited than me to know what is a cheap shot. I stand by what I said : your comment was stupid. Guns are weapons. The argument that people use weapons for defense is typical of a violent society like the US. People here don't feel the need to get a weapon because there are very few violent criminals out there. The 2nd ammendment (am i correct? the one about having the right to own a gun for self-defense against the king of England...) was written for a very particular situation. That situation is not relevant nowadays. Therefore, the whole 2nd ammendment argument is only used by ignorant peoples to justify their morbid need to own a weapon. Studies have shown that having a weapon at your disposal when you get angry increases dramatically the chance of you using it as a "problem-solvier" (as if a gun could solve anything). People are carrying guns for their safety, but what this does is that people have guns at hand-reach whenever they get out of control. Oh, of course, carrying a gun is illegal you'll say, but those regular guys and ladies that carry guns in their car or handbags, they wouldn't have one if it wasn't so easy to buy one. Look, Larry, come live in here for a while and you'll see what I mean when I say that gun control is a good thing. Terry

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		Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
Why would we say that? At least a few, if not many, US states have SHALL issue laws for CCW permits. Including my new home state, FL. File for a permit, pass a test, and they can't deny you the permit if you are not a felon or mentally unbalanced. (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
(...) Hmmmmm, is it morbid just to like a big kaboom? I like the kaboom of fireworks. Admittedly, .22 are a simple crack, a 9mil is more of a bang, and you have to get into something bigger than that to even rate a boom much less a kaboom! But yes, (...) (21 years ago, 21-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
(...) You say that like it's a bad thing. But no, I am not, the NRA are misguided, they miss the point when they talk about hunting and home defense. The point is right there in the 2nd amendment. (...) Funny, I often think the same thing when (...) (21 years ago, 12-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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