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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote:
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As far as keeping things “status = out” via a pause button or something,
this could be prevented by an automatic system that allows an item to be
checked out for an absolute maximum of 50% again the time it would take to
view or
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I’m a little disturbed by what this might mean to the creation of art or
informational media. I do think that people have the right to earn
something for their labors and I am not so bent on the entry of everything
immediately into the commons that we disparage the arts and progress
overall.
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And for the library to work, at least some copies would have to be purchased
to stock it’s supplies of a given item -- some but not probably that many
copies.
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I dunno. Maybe we will eventually have to move away from capitalism as we
know it and more towards something more like Star Trek -- whatever the heck
their economy is based on.
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Do IP rights have to be bought the way they are now? The reason this library
idea is very cool is because it follows the law of today, yet gets more media
to more people...right? Why not just set up this giant media database but
charge microfees for use? In this scenario, the IP is just being temporarily
licensed to the user.
Also, I’m not seeing how being less capitalistic is beneficial in this case.
You also wouldn’t need to limit the checkout time for a given piece if you
were just charging a cent per hour or whatever and the artists get paid. I’m
envisioning everyone having an account; money flows out of your account and
into the DB which takes a cut -- and then back out to the content providers.
It would be cleaner if everything had the same cost per unit time, but I’m
not sure there’s any really good reason to do that. The content providers
could price their work however they wanted so whether you wanted to listen to
a particular song or not might be based in part on the cost.
Another great thing about such a DB-driven library (regardless of cost to
user) is that user profiles could be compiled by those who wanted to rate the
works they accessed and the profiles could be matched up for intelligent
recommendations.
If such a “library” were providing remuneration to the artists/producers,
would it stifle the arts industries? It seems as likely to provide the
fertile ground needed for a renaissance.
Chris
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I would like to see a revolution in the entire entertainment field based on
something like this. Instead of paying an actor 20 mil to make a picture, pay
the actor(s) based on the revenue that the motion picture makes (a la Nicolson
in “Batman” (iirc) )
This would also be used to pay the other folks--the director, the producer(s),
the studio--oh wait--that’s how the studio basically gets paid now--how much
revenue the pic makes.
When applied to the recording industry, if AC/DC wants to put out an ‘album’
into this vast library as discussed here, they would get paid by how many folks
pay to listen. AC/DC therefore would receive no money from me.
Anyway, it’s a bit of a tangent on the current debate, but I would like to see
something like that implemented for the entertainment industry at large (1)
Dave K
1- haven’t thorougly thought this line of reasoning out and am open to other
ideas, it’s just a discussion idea.
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