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Hey Yall:
I have some scenarios for you...
I just bought a VHS tape on eBay of Neo-Tokyo (a compilation of 3 animated
shorts). Now it looks as if the seller is MIA and me with no tape. Do I own it
already, or not until I specifically take possession of it? What if a friend
decided to duplicate an existing copy for me, would it be a legal copy seeing as
how I have already paid for the same tape but not received it? What is the
fairness of the law in this case?
Another scenario is one where I already own a CD copy of a piece of music.
Instead of ripping the disk to MP3 myself, I download it off the internet. Do I
have the legal right to an MP3 copy off the internet, or must I have ripped the
track myself? A CD is already digital, so the transfer to MP3 is fairly
painless -- but what if I want to rip vinyl to MP3? Is there a difference in
terms of my rights to a backup copy once I cross the digital barrier? In the
event that you think I have the right to a backup copy whatever the source, is
there a difference if I were to download an MP3 (a digital copy) of something I
only own as vinyl (an analog copy)? Again, what is the fairness of the law in
this case?
FWIW, I am very sad about the Neo-Tokyo thing. I really wanted access to the
last two animated shorts so that I could back them up to VCD. I have several
items I want to get off of VHS before they lose their quality altogether. Still
need to buy a video capture though...
-- Hop-Frog
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| "richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:HGrsA7.BA2@lugnet.com... (...) animated (...) own it (...) friend (...) seeing as (...) the (...) A fascinating case. Personally, I say you own it since you payed money for it, but I (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Gonna answer Tom later in the day, but for now I wanted to point out the first DVD I have ever seen advertised for the film in question as seen here: (URL) And yes, I already bought one. Hopefully, it's not just another scam despite that fact (...) (22 years ago, 20-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) The first important question is whether or not the VHS tape you bid for on eBay was a legal copy of that work. If it wasn't, it doesn't matter how much you paid for it, or even if you received it. You don't legally own a copy of that work. (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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