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Re: It's All About Control (was: Re: Possession)
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Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:18:38 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:
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> > > I don't think I mentioned the gov't takig over the entertainment industry--I
> > > was talking about people getting paid what they're worth, or what their
> > > product is worth.
> >
> > Good.
> >
> > Start a studio, then, and use that funding model. I think you're a sure fire bet
> > to draw lots of big name stars, and more importantly, the smaller named crafts
> > people who do most of the work, because they'll get a better shake.
> >
> > Seriously.
> >
> > And if we can get some changes in corporate law through so that the "deathless
> > corps" lose their liability shield (instead, corp officers are held personally
> > accountable for stuff), lose their political pull, lose their regulatory
> > shielding, etc, etc, etc.... maybe a studio like yours might actually have a
> > chance since it would be competing on a fairer playing field.
> >
> > Oh, and one other suggestion (somewhat more facetious than the above).. when
> > casting about for types of movies to do, stick to fantasy. :-)
>
> Well, it was just an idea along the lines of a 'universal library of stuff' that
> could be checked out that this thread was going on about.
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> So the ideas about paying the recording artists directly from funds fm the
> checkouts from this library is not so far fetched, but having studios pay the
> actors a percentage of the revenue is answered with contempt and
> facetiousness,
Not by me... I think they are both good ideas. I just don't know if it or they
will fly in the current environment with the BigCorps having their strangleholds
on things. We need systemic change to restore the Free Market back to what it
once was, we are strangled now with rules and regulations that favor the
entrenched and restrict competition.
The answer, however, is not more rules to try to rebalance, it's a machete to
cut away the jungle of rules already in place ...
> making my idea sound like it was *really* far fetched.
And that machete to tame the jungle of unfettered advantage... THAT's what's
really far fetched, my friend, not your studio idea. Hence my despair at things
ever changing in the US for the better, sans a revolution. Maybe they might, and
that would be great. But I'm not holding my breath.
So, meanwhile, I do my part as much as I can... whenever I go to a bar and see a
band I like, I buy their CD(s). Direct. No middleman. Capitalism at its finest.
Am I spitting in the wind thinking that I'm helping? Maybe. But I have less
Britney, et al, and more *good* music in my collection than the average schmo.
> Hmmmm, Jack made a handsome salary on "Batman", being paid by percentages,
> Affleck did not for "Pearl Harbor". So which little idea just discussed in this
> thread has *already* happened?
Making it a good example, within the limits of the system. Is it a valid example
to reason about an ideal system where the power of the BigCorps is broken and
the Free Market is allowed to reign free again? Some would say yes, and some
would say no.
> Hacks off the stage please.
Meaning?
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) Sorry I misread then--on this above point I'll completely agree. I saw Wendy Woo in a pub in Denver last Christmas and I bought a few of her CD's and they're extraordinary. Much talent (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Well, it was just an idea along the lines of a 'universal library of stuff' that could be checked out that this thread was going on about. So the ideas about paying the recording artists directly from funds fm the checkouts from this library (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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