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(...) Real baseball players bat. Mark Mulder turns swinging a bat into an adventure. In other words, the DH is as legit as AL pitching and/or relief pitching. BTW Edgar Martinez for the Hall of Fame (Once he retires)! (...) Agreed. (...) Legit call (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is the latter the cost paid by the US for the first Gulf war only, or the total cost? The first Gulf war, being sactioned by the UN, was not paid exclusively by the US. Far from it, the bill was shared between many countries. The present war (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I've always thought it was "Nee"! Fredrik (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Addendum (for clarification)-- "No matter which party." And on that I completely agree. Dave K (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This should be a non-partisan issue. If s/he wastes taxpayer money, throw the bum out -- doesn't matter which side s/he claims to be on. My favorite CA politician is Jerry Brown -- he's a little spooky, but he rides BART and I think he (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (assuming your a demo branch demopublican speaking, else it's "the President doesn't control the economy, unless 1) it's strong and he's a Democrat or 2) it's weak and he's a Republican." Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Bush and Davis (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, we're to the same standard I would say. (...) There's no better defense than the market of ideas in this sphere but I do not have to prove a point to your satisfaction or else "cede" it. There are other possible outcomes. (...) Well... (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Much better to have far-Right conservative clowns at the Federal helm. Bush, as you are for some reason overlooking, has destroyed a far larger budget surplus in far less time than Davis, and Bush has no plans, concrete or abstract, to correct (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Frightening (URL) like to call my beautiful home state of California the great Democrat experiment. Every top government office in the state is held by a Democrat, and the legislature is overwhelmingly Democrat. Gray Davis took office in 1998 to a (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're kidding, right? You're saying, in effect, that you are free to assert your opinions as facts, but I'm held to a higher rhetorical standard? (...) Since you're the one on the outside making the claim contrary to the existing system, it (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Pilgrims threaten jihad against American forces" (URL) go, you read, you find out that Iraqis may have a different opinion about good government than does GWB. Your sons and daughters will fight for GWB's side of it regardless. How many people must (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's not a settled point, so I'd wish you wouldn't assert it as if it were. (...) Nor is that settled. But larger-ly, what's the bearing? Do you disagree that a just government (whether you think a non libertarian government is just or not) (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I disagree. There should be no grey area here: you either have the right of unfettered assembly or you do not. The government has no right to infiltrate a group on the mere suspicion that they will act violently. Please see: (URL) not quite (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am not clear on the particulars, but I think broadcasters do have to give air time to those with opposing views. I think it works that way at the local level, or at least it used to. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the FCC has backed (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, it must be remembered that the government, then using force in accordance with written law, is exercising contract enforcement, which is 100% approved by Libertarian philosophy. Maybe I don't like it, maybe you don't like it, but (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) To put it another way: What's great about that particular case is that it's show that (partial) deregulation will be abused when possible and (even temporarily) profitable. Dave! (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually I've never seen an English road sign in Quebec, but then again, I haven't been looking for one. (...) Like a woman, we're a mystery. (...) It means that, for most, you think a little harder before you hop in a car and drive to (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) great articles. Mr. Williams is a favorite of mine. (...) Ah, Molly. She's a piece of work. But she's on to something with this one. See, (public funding of sports arenas aside) Michael Jordan is getting his cash directly from people who want (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agreed. Equal protection under the law means that the government (which has the force initiation monopoly, remember) has to take all unlawful actions seriously. These people making threats need to be found and prosecuted, in my view. (...) I'm (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ya, I was wondering about that myself. Why is it that in all the other provinces, signs are in two languages but in (at least in some parts of) Quebec, they're only in one (french). I'm not talking about shop signs and suchlike, I'm talking (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Here is a rather interesting article referenceing the subject line. (URL) of posting this refers to the April 16th article. This one is unrelated but interesting too. (URL) of posting this refers to the April 23rd article. With the above article the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Where to begin... (...) K, let's start here--Every elected PM in my lifetime (and most PM's before that) came from *one* province--guess which one. Political oppression? Where? (...) You consider yourselves 'speaking for Quebec' and at the same time (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes: <snip> (...) And wasn't that the exact point that Timmy was trying to make? At least, that's what I read. Dave K (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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New debate direction alert!! On the issue of the reporter, I think there is a common confusion (in my opinion) between freedom of speech and priviledge of access. The reporter has access to mass media dissimination of his speech that most of us do (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, they did win the match; but they lost the round (the first leg result was 3-1 for Real Madrid) (...) For future reference: Video! :-P (advantage: you can forward the boring parts of the match...) (...) They're being so underpaid compared (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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first, thank you for posting this. i hadn't known this. second, god this is depressing! my government, whom i'm too afraid of to really resist, is purposely and actively subverting international and domestic law - regardless of the reason behind the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Normally I am better with the cites, here's this one on Slashdot (with user comments): (URL) the original cite: (URL) bit: ---...--- * Expanded use of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which permits the government to conduct (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Absolutely astounding?! (...) Definately not good. (...) Clearly the greatest threat to our country and Freedom comes from D.C. (Gee, there's a shock) -Mike Petrucelli (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) agree completely. as mentioned before, limits to free speech exists. and they are threats and slander. (...) while i agree that the spirit of these actions might be anti-constitutional, unless the police take any further actions, it's hard to (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Um, treason is a very specific crime with very specific actions that define it as treason. We aren't even in the ballpark with what that reporter did. And databasing protestors seems harmless until you realize that the FBI wants to create a (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) -title of yahoo link You Chicks couldn't carry a tune if it was strapped to your backs. Your lyrics neither rhyme nor scan. Ya stink! -->Bruce<-- Last house on the left, kinda turned at a funky angle (looking out window waiting for nude (...) (22 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Real baseball players stand out in the field. Reggie Jackson would turn trying to catch even the simpliest routine fly ball into an adventure. (...) Give the batters a mound - we have a mound gap! (...) First incarnation was terrible, the (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No oppressed socially, but politically. Our rights as humans are well respected, if that's what you mean. No problem there. (...) Yep, that's 100% true. We don't consider ourselves as martyrs. We are pretty happy about our situation, even if (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Actually aren't there a ton of topics to debate in sports? How about: The pros and cons of the designated hitter? Whether or not lowering the pitchers mound has given batters an advantage? The pros/cons of Instant replay in the NFL? The Tuck rule? (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I had to reply as this is a time that I actually find myself agreeing with hop-frog. Death threats are not only inappropriate, but illegal, and should not be tolerated. If you want to call the Dixie Chicks traitors, or unAmerican, go ahead, (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hey all- Speaking as an ex-Minnesotan, GO WILD!! GO WILD!! Ry out (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Dixie Chicks 'get death threats'" (URL) one's fun too: (URL) recall this happening with The Beatles and the famous thing Lennon said? What I am getting from some of you is that free speech is not without risk. Fine, I don't mind well-reasoned, (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'll take your word for it. (...) I heard that one on sportscenter. Short clip, but ManUtd won right? (...) Nice. Lemme see, 3 o clock, nope, im at school still, from those freakin extended hours. I'm in middle school and am stuck there from 7 (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, you've identified the primary problem with the US population at the moment. Dave! (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Back when it changed from off-topic.debate. (...) Possibly... But they could be debates... (...) HA! THE DUCKS SWEPT THE RED WINGS! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! oops, sorry, that slipped out there ; ) (...) Well, im fundamentally different then. Probably (...) (22 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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