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Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
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Fri, 25 Apr 2003 18:09:41 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > Equal protection under the law means that the government (which has
> > > the force initiation monopoly, remember)
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> > Actually, it must be remembered that the government, then using force in
> > accordance with written law, is exercising contract enforcement, which is
> > 100% approved by Libertarian philosophy.
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> That's not a settled point, so I'd wish you wouldn't assert it as if it were.
You're kidding, right? You're saying, in effect, that you are free to
assert your opinions as facts, but I'm held to a higher rhetorical standard?
> > Maybe I don't like it, maybe you don't like it, but that's how the
> > contract functions. You're under no forced obligation to remain in the
> > contract, of course.
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> Nor is that settled.
Since you're the one on the outside making the claim contrary to the
existing system, it is up to you to prove your point; it is not up to me to
disprove it.
I will consider the point ceded if you merely hit me with a bunch of links
or simply declare matter "ploughed ground" or "already decided by the market
of ideas" without giving a better defense.
> But larger-ly, what's the bearing? Do you disagree that a just government
> (whether you think a non libertarian government is just or not) ought to
> afford all citizens equal protection, or not?
My post made no claims re: equal protection but was instead taking issue
with your off-hand statement put forth as if it were self-evident fact (a
point which is, by the way, part of the aforementioned
straight-down-the-pipe Libertarian orthodoxy.)
Dave!
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| (...) No, we're to the same standard I would say. (...) There's no better defense than the market of ideas in this sphere but I do not have to prove a point to your satisfaction or else "cede" it. There are other possible outcomes. (...) Well... (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) That's not a settled point, so I'd wish you wouldn't assert it as if it were. (...) Nor is that settled. But larger-ly, what's the bearing? Do you disagree that a just government (whether you think a non libertarian government is just or not) (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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