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Re: How Will We Ever Wash the Stink of GWB Jr. Off?!
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Fri, 25 Apr 2003 02:44:24 GMT
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first, thank you for posting this. i hadn't known this.
second, god this is depressing! my government, whom i'm too afraid of to really
resist, is purposely and actively subverting international and domestic law -
regardless of the reason behind the actions. this shows and proves that the
greatest threat to world peace is the US government, which endorses and acts in
terroristic ways that are much more devious and deadly than those of al qaeda,
iraq, or any other nation on earth.
and to anyone who may question my patriotism:
i ** LOVE ** my country, and all the people in it! I believe that given the
proper information on what is really going on, 95% of the American people WOULD
make the right choice, WOULD uphold domestic and international law, and WOULD
respect the inherent human rights of EVERYONE. and it is the actions of the 5%
who find themselves in the positions of power to actively lie and misrepresent
that keeps america from being one of the centers of TRUE democracy and freedom.
-l. hoffman
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
> "Children held at Guantanamo Bay"
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4653978,00.html
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> Children younger than 16 are being held as "enemy combatants" in the
> American detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, the US military admitted
> yesterday, a practice human rights groups condemned as repugnant and illegal.
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> Three boys aged between 13 and 15 are among about 660 inmates at the
> controversial camp, a US military official told the Guardian, on condition
> of anonymity. The official would not disclose their nationalities but said
> they had been brought from Afghanistan this year on suspicion of terrorism.
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> As soon as their ages were confirmed in medical tests, the children were
> moved to a "dedicated juvenile facility" at the camp, where they could
> socialise with each other, according to Lieutenant Corporal Barry Johnson, a
> spokesman at the base.
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> "They are in a secure environment free from the influences of older
> detainees," Lt Cpl Johnson said. "They are receiving specialist mental
> health care, in recognition of the difficult circumstances that child
> combatants go through, and some basic education in terms of reading and
> writing." Efforts were under way to contact their home nations, he added.
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> But the children would still be held indefinitely and would not be granted
> access to lawyers, he said, because the US continues to view them as "enemy
> combatants" - a term it has used to argue that the Geneva Conventions do not
> apply to the inmates, who have not been charged with any crimes.
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> That would be the case "until we ensure that they're no longer a threat to
> the United States, that there's no pending law enforcement against them,
> that they're no longer of intelligence value," Lt Cpl Johnson said.
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> Holding the children was "wholly repugnant and contrary to basic principles
> of human rights," said Angela Wright of Amnesty International, and
> contravened UN rules with "near-universal acceptance" regarding the
> treatment of juveniles.
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> ------------------------------------
>
> The people comprising the Bush administration are godless -- and I mean this
> to convey the idea that they are without ethics understandable to the
> religious and secular members of the U.S. population alike. Defend them if
> you can...
>
> -- Hop-Frog
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