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(...) Long distance carriers almost never phone anymore; I suspect it's because of my "stock answer" for them, which is "I challenge you to get me a better long distance rate than I do right now." This gets them all fired up into their spiel, and I (...) (22 years ago, 28-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe our governor (Illinois) recently vetoed such a bill because it 'wasn't strong enough' and allowed too many exemptions. I think these state-run do not call lists (with penalties) are a good thing (and are long overdue). BUT, I hope (...) (22 years ago, 28-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thinking hard - unless you count bubbles in the light sabre as defective, all the parts have been there, they were always the right color, and they always worked. Bruce (yes, I know, it's not off-topic...) Time for a poll? :-) (22 years ago, 28-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope, that's about what we get (and yep, it's our two kids that keep mealtime quite lively). I use a twist on what I learned from watching my mom deal with Jehovah's Witnesses who came to the door when I was a kid. She'd just matter of factly (...) (22 years ago, 28-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Grrrrr! Why do people insist on talking about LEGO in off-topic groups????? 8?P ROSCO (22 years ago, 28-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok, maybe it's just another instance of how I live some wierd sort of ideal world(1), but I don't suffer from this plague. My wife does get a few during the day; she estimates once or twice a week, but I don't get the "nightly torrent". If we (...) (22 years ago, 27-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My state (Colorado) just passed a "no call list" (URL) where your telephone number is entered into a database. Telemarketers are required to buy updates (I think quarterly) of the database and are fined for each number that is called on the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't wish to contradict you, but we've been saying that exact phrase in response to the four or five nightly telemarketers for about the last three years, and there's been no dropoff. While I was in college I had a number of friends who (...) (22 years ago, 27-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) don't really have anything to add here, I just found some of his stuff compelling. I am guessing, probably correctly, that right wingers will not probably enjoy his material. I found what he said about information and capital interesting. I (...) (22 years ago, 27-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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We don't get very many telemarketing calls at all. Why? We know the magic words: "Put us on your do not call list." If you say this to every telemarket who calls you, you will find that the frequency of telemarketing drops off precipitously, to the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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A Metro would likely explode, and HE vehicles are already HE, there's not a whole lot more you can squeeze out of them. I'll stick with my overpowered monster that has better than stock efficiency, thankyouverymuch ;-) (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) (...) (22 years ago, 27-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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You need to find out if your state has a law with penalties for telemarketers who call you again after you ask to be put on their "do not call" list. Then, diligently keep a log of all telemarketers. Tell each one to put you on that list. You play a (...) (22 years ago, 26-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) Bah!! There's more important things to worry about, such as: is my neighbor a terrorist? will the price of gas increase tomorrow? will Lego raise the price per set this year or reduce the piece count again? (22 years ago, 26-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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OK, so can catch up or even exceed many high efficiency cars by enhancing your sports car. But what if you made the same modifications to a Geo Metro or other high efficiency vehicle? --Bill. (...) (22 years ago, 26-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) By charging *only* $100,000 a minute? Good luck;-) -John (22 years ago, 26-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I prefer the Marquis de Sade technique. Require all telemarketeers be hooked up to an electro-shock machine. Push the star * button on your phone when they call you (always at dinner time). The number of times the telemarketeer has called you (...) (22 years ago, 26-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [snip] (...) Sweet! But then shouldn't you remove yourself from no-calls-please thing? Actually, it would be kind of cool to hear the legal reasons why this won't really work. Chris (22 years ago, 26-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If this works--sign me up. The next telemarketer is going to get a close rendition of this from me. But is it legal? I mean tow away zones are there 'by law', me saying that the telemarketer's co. is subject to whatever $/min is just me saying (...) (22 years ago, 26-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Like everyone else in the electrically-civilized world, I am plagued by a nightly torrent of telemarketers plying their various wares. We've signed up at a state-run no-calls-please website set up here in Pennsylvania to block calls through some (...) (22 years ago, 26-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What's the story with SUVs and all this angst? I bought a Toyota RAV4 (I know, a baby SUV) the second year they were out and I drove it around town, on 20,000 miles of highway road trips and up 40 degree dirt and rock inclines. It was a great (...) (22 years ago, 24-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Scientists Agree World is Facing Mass Extinction (URL) from article: "There is virtual unanimity among scientists that we have entered a period of mass extinction not seen since the age of the dinosaurs, an emerging global crisis that could have (...) (22 years ago, 24-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the image in my mind went something like this, "Marchetti, Hop-Frog, Black Undies..." That is a picture no one is likely to forget. Ribbit! So I suppose your case is the truest of the "it's not easy being green" cases. Hmm? (...) I (...) (22 years ago, 24-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Thats's a special case ;-) Though you should have a Turbo Diesel Ram or other monster truck as your tow vehicle. Then again, if you have a Dodge Ram, that's not an SUV anyways. Not by the "real" definition ("Yuppiemobile that never has dirt on it (...) (22 years ago, 24-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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Psh. You don't know the sports car owners *I* do. I use my car several levels higher than it was intended ;-) While putting out over 1.5 times the stock horspower, I actually get BETTER gas mileage than stock (making more power generally requires (...) (22 years ago, 24-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ergh? As a Dodge Neon racer, I have to have a big Dodge to pull the trailer with the Neon in it. Neon not enough of a sports car? Sure has enough dings and dents to qualify as having been seriously "sported". And if it doesn't qualify, then I (...) (22 years ago, 24-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Road & Track, Car & Driver, Motor Trend, etc. all refer to the Miata as a sports car, so forgive me if I value their opinion over yours. :-) But then, I consider my 1953 MGTD that I used to own a sports car... Bruce (22 years ago, 24-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Irrelevant. I reject your comparison of Nazi Germany's occupation and Israel's, and am rather offended by it. -John (22 years ago, 24-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Miatas are roadsters, not sports cars. Roadsters are fine. It's sports cars I'm talking about. Especially ones like Tom Stangl has ;-) --Bill. P.S.: Speaking of roadsters, anyone want to buy my father's 1965 MGB? He passed away last fall and (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Easier solution, Richard - fly to England and buy underwear at Debenham's - they have 3-packs of just black & dark grey for the Gen-X/Gen-Y crowd. if you want, I'll get you some packs next time I'm over there on vacation. Paul Sinasohn (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Me too. Seems I'm less geeky than I thought. If anyone calls me a geek again I'll point them to that quiz and tell them I only got 21%, which is just over 1/5th geek (damn, I think my geek rating just doubled!). Dan (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I dunno either. My Miata gets over 30mpg. As far as space utilization efficiency goes unlike most 5-7 passenger SUVs, my car is always guaranteed to be at least half full. ;-) Of course it could be debated that a Miata isn't a real sports (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was more disappointed that they didn't have an "i have a segway, not a car" option 8?) ROSCO (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I dunno ... they're both woefully inefficient and useless, wasting lots of gasoline and polluting the environment, and are almost never used for their supposedly intended purposes, but rather are used just for commuting or getting around town (...) (22 years ago, 23-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) You are a geek. Good for you! Considering the endless complexity of the universe, as well as whatever discipline you happen to be most interested in, you'll never be bored as long as you have a good book store, a net connection, and thousands (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) One man's terrorist is an other man's partisan. Marek Edelman was one of the leaders of the Warsaw ghetto uprising of the Jews against the Nazis in 1943. Is he a terrorist or a freedom fighter? Should his living relatives be punished for his (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I scored: ---...--- You are 21% geek OK, so maybe you ain't a geek. You do, at least, show a bit of interest in the world around you. Either that, or you have enough of a sense of humor to pick some of the sillier answers on the test. Regardless, (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) ~~~...~~~ Final Score: You are 28% geek You are a geek liaison, which means you go both ways. You can hang out with normal people or you can hang out with geeks which means you often have geeks as friends and/or have a job where you have to (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Yes, it's a very sick feline creature living in the space between buildings. Wow, that was a bad one -- what could I have been thinking? Normally I would blame this on my increasingly annoying keyboard, but those letters aren't even close to (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Well here's a test you can take to see if your opinion is worthy: (URL) (at least when you consider the topic and who must have created it) I couldn't take it using Netscape but had to use IE. BTW Richard, "illicate"? Is this some word whose (...) (22 years ago, 22-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I could argue for and against going into .debate. My gut reaction would have been to cross-post initially with follow-ups set to .debate. As to the initial question: (...) Globalization of the tech industry has been going on for longer than (...) (22 years ago, 21-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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