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Hello Chris, in general, I agree with your posting, but this one example seems odd to me: (...) Bike helmets will not prevent kids from learning that certain practices are dangerous, just limit the effect such dangerous practices can have. I think (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) For the record, I used outlet covers when my son was little and I imagine that I'll use them with the next one (due in only ten weeks!). And we have very high quality car seats -- the best that were available when we did our research, and (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip good list of possible alternatives> (...) It may be. Is it *just* to force a democratic election? I'm not sure. Maybe not. But the will of the general people has been ignored in Afghanistan for a long time. Should we have left W. Germany (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Children and Violence
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(...) And the less control they feel they have over their own environment. (...) Violence may be the expression of a pent up desire to control one's environment. It seems those most likely to commit egregious acts of violence are those who have been (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, you were talking about *all* airports. But I don't see any difference in this case. For example: The government contracts with private firms for cleaning in some cases and uses public employees in others. Maintenance, cleaning, security. (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's the theory, but in practice it has turned out that regulations are HIGHLY relevant... they are a min-max. In other industries the defense that "we were in conformance with standards" has been an accepted defense. This has been discussed (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Chick disproves Islam!
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(...) I don't think Jack Chick intentionally makes fun of Christians but he certainly makes some Christians (or ANY other uncritical thinkers that operate the way he and his writers do, for that matter) look ridiculous. I doubt that was his desired (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I thought the author was making fun of Christians. I didn't go looking around, but from your cites, it sounds like it supports that. Or am I all wet? Chris (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Heynowwaitaminnit! I resemble that remark. Actually, that describes me well enough. But your implication is that the logic therein is circular. Maybe I'm a little slow, but I don't see it. Could you spell it out slowly for me? thanks, Chris (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think that it is. The more controls in place on children, the less practice they have at operating without controls. (...) I agree with him (though probably go farther). When I get into these discussions, a few of which have been here, (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The regulations are largely irrelevant. Generally they set a minimum standard, not a maximum one. It is my understanding that UA and AA are open to litigation for their "failure" on the 11th - is that not the case? (...) I'm not clear on what (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm talking about where the government own the airport. (...) Larry, whenever you start to squirm we either get this "it is not an ideal world yet so we have to compromise for now" answer or we get the "LP dreamland is an ideal world which can (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Meet me after school in the parking lot, unless you're yella'. ;`) A bit more seriously, although still in jest, what if I were? (...) Agreed. I just couldn't resist. (...) Whole-heartedly agree. Utter rubbish - the entire site and those like (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bill Farkas writes: <snip> If I didn't know better, I'd think you were trying to pick a fight. Circular reasoning is fallacious no matter who advances it, or what it is used to knock down or raise up... That's all I'm (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, for the majority of the article I felt like running a few perl regexps on it: s/islam/christianity/gi; s/muhammed/jesus/gi; s/koran/bible/gi; Though my favorite by far was number 1: The Bible is older, so it's right! Never mind the fact (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Kinda like a guy who rejects "traditional" views of morality, invents his own (!) and then declares himself righteous?!! Honestly, how bizarre is that?! Ruminate on that one for a while and then criticize all you want. I don't believe in God (...) (23 years ago, 30-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I just read some other sections of the site. I was particularly amused by a couple of stuff: - Singapore government forbids religious critics => incentives equalness between religions => is wrong ('cause we are better!). - Can almost 1 bn Catholics (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) AMEN! ;-) Pedro (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agree. It starts with the wrong argument, and goes all the way down. I'd say the writer was probably abducted by aliens, who implanted him a probe... ;-) Pedro (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hmm, I'm not sure whether this article really disproves Islam or simply all religions. The author seems to be drawing on his own broad assumptions and bias about Islam, which I think falsely characterizes the religion itself and what it stands for (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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rlogin horstl, (...) rm -rf /bin/laden ^ :wq horstl (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) be used against christianity like #2 2. Arguing in a circle: If you have already assumed in your premise what you are going to state in your conclusion, then you have ended where you began and proven nothing. (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This was far too funny not to post. (URL) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Thnx. (...) *We* did not run west... the *queen* did - that marked the beggining of tourism in Brazil. The rest of the population had to stay and withstand the fight, with some help from the Brits (ah, Wellington... fascinating character) we (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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| | Children and Violence
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Hey Y'all: I was just sitting here contemplating my navel when I began to think about violence and its causes. We have certainly been given a few jolts these past years and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. We have children shooting (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I live in the greatest country in the world. If I moved to a not so good one (say England). Scotland would still be my home. (...) I don't really see myself in those terms. Read the news and you will see that Israel are pretty good at (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Um, it's not OK there either. Not at private airports, not in an ideal system. We're in a mixed system so some compromises happen. Doesn't mean I like them or accept them or agree with them or think they are good. So no, it is NOT OK and I (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I deny none of the above except the unstated implication that this is the only possible outcome. Remember, these actions are by heavily regulated firms that, as it turns out, managed to (quite easily) wriggle off the hook for liability. To (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm an idealist too. Oh, that wasn't what you were asking... I agree with all of that except for the part about the nukes. I know it's accepted wisdom that Israel has some. If they do I think they ought to keep them. At least until we invent a (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree that legally Israel does exist and that it is here to stay. I wish they would respect human rights a little more, stop murdering people, respect UN resolutions, hand back what is does not belong top them, get rid of their nuclear (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh yes I did. (in a pantomime tone) (...) Indeed, and I have said before it would be a great issue for the LP to work on: (URL) A (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So why is it OK for "the feds" to invade your privacy at the airport but nowhere else? Scott A (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Good morning Mr Mohamed Atta, you can certainly board the flight with your large licensed gun. We have reserved your seat right up front next to the cockpit. By the way, why is your passport made out of asbestos?" Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree. I don't want airline security to be set by consumer focus groups. I think the public will always trust a government regulated system more. The private sector can't be trusted: (URL) by the air industry in the USA to oppose (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | bailout (was Re: The big lie)
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(...) I really do worry about the support the airlines are getting. I know the last few weeks have been tough for them, but the fact is that that the 4 flights which were lost on the 11th were flying from good slots but yet they were no where near (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, this made me think of one other thing: Spanish colonial policy. It's been pretty well proven (by Patricia Seed, if memory serves) that the Spanish tried very hard to emulate the government of the Caliphates in their dealings with the (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ack, I can't believe I didn't set groups right. I didn't want this hiding in .pt alone. :D (...) (23 years ago, 29-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There it is: influence, not copy. I'd say inspiration... :-) (...) Yes, the storm *was* the main gun... but the fire-ships were also very effective, at least in the morale issue. The only real bugger in this whole story is that portuguese (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.pirates)
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(...) That's a pity. I was hoping I could talk you into a day trip to Austin for the Texlug meeting. Speaking of Hobby, about 8 years ago one of my closest friends, B, was dropping off one of his friends at Hobby who was catching a plane to St. (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not unless flechette guns have already been cleared for use at Hobby. :-) that was a hypothetical example, I just chose a city with two airports that I could remember the names of so that the reroute made sense. (...) A flechette gun (not sure (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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