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Re: All UK Groups subscribed?
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lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Thu, 27 May 1999 10:47:30 GMT
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Todd Lehman wrote:

In lugnet.loc.uk, richard.dee@virgin.net (Richard Dee) writes:
One group for each county, country, (count Channel Islands and IOM
as a country), and major city, such as Manchester, Edinburgh, etc.
2 for London, 1 north, 1 for south. (Thames as a natural barrier).
Any more localised groups can be quite easily covered by a
county group. This would reduce it from 83? to about 30 or so?

Let's see.  I'll do my best to interpret what I think Richard is suggesting:

Combine or split                            Net gain
=======================================     ========
Channel Islands & IOM -> CI&IOM                -1
London -> North London & South London          +1
Reading & Windsor -> Berkshire                 -1
Exeter & Plymouth & Torbay -> Devonshire       -1
Dover & Rochester -> Kent                      -1
Birmingham & Coventry -> West Midlands         -1
Bradford & Leeds -> West Yorkshire             -1
Boston & Lincoln -> Lincolnshire               -1
                                            ========
                                               -6

That's what it looks like Richard is suggesting...

So if I'm understanding things correctly (maybe I'm not), this would bring
the number of UK groups down from 83 to 77?

A side question -- am I misunderstanding what a county is?  Are there other,
larger administrative divisions higher up than the 46 listed here?--

*nod* See below.

   http://www.lugnet.com/loc/uk/en/

I had a quick look at your list.  Todd, you are using an old map!  Some of those
counties you listed were "rationalised" (unitarised?) a couple of years back.
For example, Humberside no longer exist... the southern part was (re-) joined
with Lincolnshire.  The Yorkshire part of Humberside was made into East
Yorkshire.  Another example is (I think) that County Durham and Cleveland have
merged (or is that the other way around?)

Anyway, the current Labour government is/has suggested that England (as opposed
to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland) be split into about 10 regions (erm...
I got this from an April copy of "The Economist", I think).  Well, in no
particular order, these are: North East, North West, Yorkshire, South East,
Eastern, London, East Midlands, West Midlands, South West and , uh,...Western?
The map was quite small, and my knowledge of the south is patchy, but iirc, for
example:

Eastern grouped together the East Anglian counties of Norfolk, Suffolk,
Cambridgeshire and Essex (I think)
The Yorkshire region consisted of all 4 Yorkshire counties (N,S,E,W)
North East region is the area north of Yorkshire all the way up to Tyneside and
the Scottish border
Etc. etc.

To simplify the loc.uk groups, it would be nice if these regions were taken into
account, though I'd say that you'd better group the entire south east, from
King's Lynn to Kent and west up the Thames valley in one group :)



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(...) I haven't checked it that closely - I wouldn't be surprised though! (...) I've being trying to find this information everywhere as this is my idea for the loc. groups. (...) Right, much get more information on this. (...) I reckon we have (...) (25 years ago, 28-May-99, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.admin.general)

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  Re: All UK Groups subscribed?
 
(...) Let's see. I'll do my best to interpret what I think Richard is suggesting: Combine or split Net gain ===...=== ======== Channel Islands & IOM -> CI&IOM -1 London -> North London & South London +1 Reading & Windsor -> Berkshire -1 Exeter & (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-99, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.admin.general)

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