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| | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | Beautiful, Gary. I am moved to tears. Just say when, and I will make a letter as well when you send one out. (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes: [...] Snip Gary's pissing match and wonderful letter Gary, Excellent letter. Do you think it would be more effective if it is a letter put out by the group with many names on the list? Or do you want to (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Gary R. Istok
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| | | | | | (...) Glad you liked the letter, My first thought was to have us all sign (typed names?) it and list the total number of sets and pieces represented by this group of signers. How about that? Gary Istok (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Greg Majewski
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| | | | | | | (...) It would probably be better like that (what was written above). Um, this will probably sound dumb, but people with scanners could actually send a real signature to be put on the letter, or should multiple letters be sent out? Greg "(URL) (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | Excellent! Scott Sanburn Age 24 CADD Designer Number of confirmed sets 492 (50 or so not known from assimilation) Pieces = 102,286 (Some 5,000 from assimilation) (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Gary R. Istok
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| | | | | | | | | Thanks Scott. Are you trying out SAHBO as a new acronym (Shop At Home Bulk Orders)? Well I don't know if it will do any good, but I do know that Peter Eio will read the letter. I may not like their policies, but I do like Mr. Eio. He's been there a (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | | | | Yes, you caught me, my dream acronym, SAHBO, Shop At Home Bulk Orders, (I can see the logo now!) or maybe even OLSAHBO, Online! Yes, scroll through beautifully rendered parts, available in these colors, pop them in the basket, and away you go! My (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Arjan Brugman
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| | | | | | | | Scott Edward Sanburn <ssanburn@aeieng.com> wrote in article <37AB2EE4.513A9A80@a...ng.com>... (...) <snip> Ouch, now I don't feel much of a collector anymore. I know I just an AFOL only a month or 2 ago, but still... I don't know the exact count, (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Gary R. Istok
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| | | | | | | | | Arjan, No two people have the same collection. Size may be important in other areas, but not in this newsgroup. I don't want this to get into an exercise of who has the biggest collection, and who doesn't. We already know it's Conan (2.3 million), (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Arjan Brugman
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| | | | | | | | | | Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote in article <37AB385F.74533CA1@u...ch.edu>... (...) Hi Todd, (...) areas, (...) who (...) It wasn't my intention to start such a thread in the first place. I wasn't really serious about the "ouch" thing. Sorry if I (...) (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Julie Krenz
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Take a browse thru (URL) I haven't submitted my info to yet). It makes for some interesting reading. Julie (...) (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Arjan Brugman
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| | | | | | | | | | dkrenz <dkrenz@mc.net> wrote in article <37ABB158.93EE24A3@mc.net>... <snip> (...) Thanks Julie! This is exactly what I was talking about. Very interesting to read about the people & their collections around here. (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | | Arjan, Don't be upset or anything, I have been collecting sets since I was 4, everyone has different money conditions, situations, and the like. I really have never had a Dark Age, like most AFOL'S have. I am strange as it is, so it fits me. :) I (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Arjan Brugman
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| | | | | | | | Scott Edward Sanburn <ssanburn@aeieng.com> wrote in article <37AB4202.ED975B73@a...ng.com>... (...) Hey Scott, (...) everyone (...) never (...) me. :) Like you've probably ready in my reply to Todd, I was merely joking about being upset. Actually, I (...) (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Ben Gatrelle
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| | | | | | | In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes: <clip> (...) My two cents would be for Gary to send his letter with only his signature and have a standard general letter of the same tone posted on LUGNET (and RTL, peoples's site, etc.) that individuals (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | Yeesh, I'd have to TRY to count up my pieces then! I don't want to THINK about it. I bought 70,000 in one month once! (...) -- | Tom Stangl, Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | | 70,000?! WOW! In one month? Scott Sanburn (...) (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | Well, it was in 2 days, actually. But that was as much or more Lego than I had purchased in over a year. I tend to rarely ever find sets I like on clearance, but when I do, look out! (...) (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | (...) And they were all 5571s;-) <drooling rivers> -John (...) (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Don Heyse
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| | | | | | | | (...) Hey, I just got one of those last week for $70 at a Zainy Brainy in (or near) Philadelphia. Seemed like a pretty good deal at the time. They had two more left after I got mine. Don (25 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | | Well, you either found one of the stores I passed over, or they found some more in their warehouse, because I only skipped over stores that where asking too much, or ones that had 3 or less in stock. I called every ZB in the US ;-) (...) -- | Tom (...) (25 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Kevin Loch
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| | | | | | | | Is that the one in Dufasville or something (I can't remember the name but it starts with a D)? That's that store I found sevral Space Shuttles in for $70 Last year, after everyone else ran out. KL (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Don Heyse
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| | | | | | | | (...) I couldn't tell you. While visiting relatives on vacation, I bummed a ride to the nearest Zainy Brainy on mission to get a kids birthday present. I happened to browse the lego aisle and there they were... To get there you take 76 northwest of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | Sure there's a better way - use the ZB web site, it lists all stores, and directions to get there. Then again, you can just call to see if they have any ;-) And it's probably the Doylestown store, which is actually in Warrington ;-) (...) -- | Tom (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.shopping)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | If you're going to make it difficult for those of us that don't WANT to know how much we have, add another KEY figure - how many pieces/sets you had to buy from other Legoneers rather than buying from TLG, thereby lowering their profit potential. I (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —John Gerlach
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| | | | | (...) <letter snipped> A very minor quibble: "LEGO" should be in all caps, the same way the company refers to itself. John1 (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Ben Gatrelle
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| | | | | In lugnet.general, Gary R. Istok writes: <clip Gary's comments and letter to TLG CEO USA > One typo noticed... paragraph #4 "well qualified to work in you Lego Model Shops" Your not you. Ben Gatrelle (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Naji Norder
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| | | | | (...) Gary, Very good letter! As a suggestion: you might want to change the above to read "We want to pay for our Lego pieces." TLG does not like "Lego" used as a noun, so that they can keep their copyrights intact. Naji (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Thomas Main
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| | | | | Gary, I think this letter is excellent. I have a few suggestions for minor chenges you might consider: Gary Istok wrote: <snip> (...) The internet was in existence 12 years ago, although not the www. How about saying something like, "Thanks to the (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Letter (was Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed.) —Julie Krenz
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| | | | | | | The popularity of AucZILLA (1) could be also be mentioned. Although, LEGO already is aware of that. The following is part of the FAQ of AucZILLA: Q: Aren't you worried that LEGO might find out what you're doing? A: No, not at all. They already know, (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | (...) You may also want to mention CLSOTW Past Picks as a great place to start looking for cool (duh!) LEGO-related sites. --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —John Neal
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| | | | | (...) <snip of reconciliatory pleas & the letter> Gary- That is a terrific letter. I think the idea of having us all sign, including the sizes of our collections is a great idea. We could inundate the poor fellow with mail, but ultimately I think (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Mike Poindexter
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| | | | | | (...) the (...) with (...) all (...) throw me in there too. Mike Poindexter, 467 sets; 250,000 pieces (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Greg Majewski
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| | | | | | (...) Here's mine: Greg Majewski, 96 sets, around 13,000 pieces (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Letter to TLG-USA: wording suggestions —Paul Sinasohn
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| | | | | Excellent letter, Gary. Perhaps the list of websites could be enclosed as an appendix? (...) Your service packs address a part of that problem. But service pack (...) As an editor, I'd like to make 2 suggestions to that paragraph: Change "But" to (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Jeroen Ottens
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| | | | | Hai everybody, You can count me in on that letter: Jeroen Ottens, senior designer segment 7-16+ (makes a better impression than my set-count (<200) ;) And being european. Why don't we send this letter to Kjeld Kirk Kristiansen? Or even better, since (...) (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | Jeroen, HA! I had a feeling you were still lurking. Any and all help is greatly appreciated! :) Scott "Been wanting bulk orders since I was 4" Sanburn (...) (25 years ago, 7-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Gregor Benedikt Rochow
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| | | | | | | | (...) ...which is something that's overlooked by both LG and people arguing that "kids are their primary market", hence all those special parts wants that are assumed to be a rare adult idea aren't significant to LG, etc... I can't speak for (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | | | (...) <snip> I often wanted more of certain parts. Sometimes it was just for enhancing an official Lego set, like putting in a wall where there wasn't one, or adding a window or something. Often it wasn't a bargeload of pieces I wanted but a few to (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | | | | | I guess from my stand point, I bought most of my early sets to have them, but even when I was 4, I wanted a whole bunch of parts, but my parents would never would buy 7 sets just for parts. I was particularly found of the computers and the like. The (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | (...) In the 70s, when I was a kid, I DID buy a few parts packs. If they would have had a bulk service *THAT I KNEW ABOUT*, I would have bought more parts. From everything I can remember, all I had available were a few flyers from some sets listing (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Gary R. Istok
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| | | | | | | Thanks Jeroen, If we get any Bulk Order results from TLG, I'll name a street in my Lego town after you (Jeroen Avenue?). I think that you may be right. Maybe we should skip Mr. Eio (USA President), and go directly to the top, KKK. I have printed the (...) (25 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Gary R. Istok
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| | | | | | OK folks, Here's some updates to creating the "LETTER" about bulk sales. 1) Send it to KKK (not Peter Eio) and Jeroen will forward a copy to each member of the Executive Team. We will have to coordinate this so that KKK (mailed) receipt of the (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Beth Reiten
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| | | | | | (...) (snipped for brevity) Sorry to come in late on the discussion, everybody, but I have a citation that I think might be helpful if we *are* going to set up a mail campaign. Bear, John Send This Jerk the Bedbug Letter : How Companies, (...) (25 years ago, 23-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Gary R. Istok
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| | | | | | Thanks Beth, All additional folks are welcome to add their name to the letter. I am still rewriting it, and "toning down the rhetoric". So far I have about 30 signators to the letter. I will be sending out another request for more signators after (...) (25 years ago, 23-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Adam Howard
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| | | | | | Hi Gary, Do you just need our name or do you need us to sign our signature, scan it,and then send it to you? Thanks, Adam Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote in message news:37C16075.E853D5...ich.edu... (...) (25 years ago, 23-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Gary R. Istok
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| | | | | | Adam, right now, only Name, # of sets, and # of pieces. I am going to do a followup request after September 1 when a lot of people return from vacation/holiday. So far I have about 25 names. I have gotten a lot of pointers on changes to the letters. (...) (25 years ago, 24-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | (...) Gary, you can add my name to your list, if it's not there yet (can't recall if I sent it to you or not.): James Brown, 350+ sets, 30,000+ pieces Also, I am writing a letter of my own, independantly, since multiple individual letters tend to (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.ca)
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| | | | | Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed. —Steve Bliss
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| | | | On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:55:05 GMT, Gary Istok <gistok@umich.edu> wrote: [Snipped letter] That's a terrific letter, Gary! (...) The Everything LEGO weblist is awesome, but I feel that the CLSOTW site would be a better choice. It's easier to comprehend, (...) (25 years ago, 10-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
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