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Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed.
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Date: 
Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:53:29 GMT
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Gary,

I think this letter is excellent.  I have a few suggestions for minor
chenges you might consider:

Gary Istok wrote:
<snip>
Dear Mr. Eio,

It has been 12 years since I have written you.  Since that time my love for Lego
has not diminished, nor has my desire for acquiring additional sets and parts.

The major difference now is that I now find I am no longer alone in my
collecting zeal.  Thanks to the internet (not in existence 12 years ago), I now
am in contact with hundreds and thousands of others who love Lego as much as I
do.

The internet was in existence 12 years ago, although not the www.  How
about saying something like, "Thanks to the growth of the Lego-related
internet communities...." or something like that?


Unfortunately, not much has changed (besides your product line) in the last 12
years.  Your company still doesn't seem to want to bother with large private
collectors.  The bulk sales policy, discontinued in the US back in 1987, is
still discontinued.  That is very unfortunate.  There are many, many collectors
who would like to be able to build larger and larger structures, but due to the
limitations of your sets and buckets, are unable to do so.

Have you ever looked into Lego Collectors Websites?  If not, there are some
stunning websites out there.  There are many creative people throughout the
world who would be well qualified to work in you Lego Model Shops.  If you
haven't seen any, here is a super list of Lego websites to browse:

(include the Lugnet (Michael Dorneich) list of Lego websites)

Personally, I think this list is too large to include as part of the
letter.  I like you letter because it is relatively short and
to-the-point.  I think this list would dilute it too much.  You might
just mention the web address of this list instead of actually including
it in the letter.


There are also many Lego Train clubs that have come into existence (thanks to
the internet) located in Seattle (Pacific Northwest Lego Train Club), San
Francisco (Bay Area Lego Train Club) and Minneapolis/St. Paul (Greater Midwest
Lego Train Club).  These clubs set up their layouts at public (as well as
private) gatherings.  It is interesting to note that this is free publicity for
your company.

Unfortunately, these train clubs, as well as the individual collectors,  are
ignored by your company.

Here we are, all Lego Ambassadors, providing free publicity in many instances,
being shown on TV, newspapers, magazines and even books.

And yet your company chooses to ignore us.  All of consumer affairs is geared to
children.  There is no company policy (as far as any of us online Lego
collectors can tell) geared to us Adult Fans Of Lego (AFOLs as we call
ourselves).  We are simply ignored.  Yes, whenever we contact a representative
of your company, they are always friendly to us,  But that is the extent of it.

Your company should be providing free promotional banners and signage for the
train clubs to promote your company.  I have assembled a collection of nearly
1/2 million Lego parts.  I have done Lego displays in toy store windows, at
public fairs, historic mansions, and even in the Danish consulate in Detroit.
Yet I don't have any Lego banners or signs to show.  There is so much that we
AFOLs can do to promote your product (without compensation).  And yet, you
choose to ignore us.

Are promotional banners really what you're after with this letter.  What
if Lego starts doing those and thinks it has done enough to appease us?
I would leave this out unless it's really important to you.


Probably the saddest part of this is the bulk order policy.  When the collection
size of AFOLs reaches a certain point, some additional pieces always seem to be
needed.  Your service packs address a part of that problem.  But service pack
selection today is but a fraction of what it was in the 1960's.  I counted 138
different service packs available in the 1963 catalog.  That is a vastly more
than what is available today.

I still have the letter from your Consumer Affairs Service Manager stating the
labor intensive process of bulk orders.  This whole process was doomed to
failure by utilizing manual counting of parts.  It would appear that if the
Model Shops were to use this method, there wouldn't be a lot of Lego models
produced.

Recently it was learned that Australia and New Zealand still had bulk orders
available up until this year.  This fact, spread across the internet, has made
for some very, very angry large collectors in the USA and elsewhere.  There are
many collectors that spend thousands, sometimes even tens of thousands of
dollars on Lego each year.  To know that the bulk order policy was a "locally"
determined process that Lego USA chose not to continue, makes them even angrier.


I would leave out the preceeding paragraph as well.  We don't want to
appear to be a bunch of angry zealots - even if this is the case ;)

Perhaps a Bulk Order policy on the scale of Shop-At-Home is not an exceptable
alternative.  Maybe something on a highly limited scale would be acceptable.
Say allowing the Lego Community (i.e. the LEGO online newsgroup community) to
purchase 100,000 pieces of one specific item a few times a year.   That way it
would streamline the paperwork required by your company, and we (Lego community)
could prepay and distribute the parts.  And no one is asking for any handouts
here.  We want to pay for our Lego.  Just give us the opportunity.

But to do absolutely nothing, which seems to be the pattern that we Lego
collectors have seen from the Lego Group in the past, makes for a pretty sad
situation.

I hope there is something that your company can do to improve the very poor
morale of your best Lego customers.

Thank you for your time,

Gary Istok

-------------------------------------------------------------

--
Thomas Main
main@appstate.edu
http://members.xoom.com/brickenplate/index.html



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  Letter (was Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed.)
 
The popularity of AucZILLA (1) could be also be mentioned. Although, LEGO already is aware of that. The following is part of the FAQ of AucZILLA: Q: Aren't you worried that LEGO might find out what you're doing? A: No, not at all. They already know, (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)
  Re: Bulk Ordering - Secrets Revealed.
 
(...) You may also want to mention CLSOTW Past Picks as a great place to start looking for cool (duh!) LEGO-related sites. --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)

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Folks, Please! Rather than have a pissing match, and engaging in "ad hominem" attacks, let's reflect on this situation. I reread Sanjay's original message, and yeah, you could read it several ways. Larry, however has spent a considerable sum of (...) (25 years ago, 6-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)

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