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There is no such thing as a Legend, can't be a Legend if the colors are not the same as the original. Making minor changes, due to part availability, is one thing but changing the color of the parts is something completely different. I shudder to (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Your comment strongly disagrees with LEGO's marketing department. (...) The grey issue is a minor change due to part availability. (...) It would look fine. Of the changed colors, classic space only uses light grey and light grey was barely (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Wow, I'm totally amazed. I feel completely the opposite. If a piece isn't available, like the spruce tree in Main Street, that slightly decreases the value of the "Legend" quality. Not so much to deter me from being happy with it or buying the (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I don't believe that Lego marketing could convince people to buy rain coats while it was raining. If they could then the company would not be in the poor financial situation they are in today. (...) Changing a color that has been used in your (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) the old (...) imagine (...) I too am blown away that you would have such trouble seeing the difference between these colors. I received a batch of parts from a BL seller and there happened to be one out of 50 that was the new color. That one (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Together, yes, I can tell. Takes a second, but I can tell. It's not overly hard. Put them together on a MOC? if they're on a flat surface, side by side, then, yes, you can see that something's slightly off. Put them together on the same MOC a (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Gregory Muri wrote: snipped for redundancy's sake (...) From Lugnet Terms of Use Agreement: (URL) (do not) Post or re-post a message excessively 12. (do not) Stray hopelessly off-topic without moving the discussion to a more (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I agree with Nick. -Tim (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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WOW, first off Dave, let me say it is nice to see somone able to have rational thoughts about the color issue. It seems as though too many folks are not interested in discussing things just stating "it sucks" or "get over it". Now I will certainly (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) So when will enough have been said? When the thread reaches 300 posts? 400? 1000? When the change is finally reverted [1]? From reading your posts, I don't think it will _e.ver_ be enough for you. Not even if you get your way in the end, (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) It was that last sentence that really got me thinking. Some posts I've seen put up about going into a "quasi-dark-age" have just left me uneasy. There is nothing wrong voicing displeasure with what LEGO has done but to take as far as "That's (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Tim, Agreed. Yes, there are some strong arguments on each side (I have yet to voice my concern for it, let alone for parts) but I think we should talk about set concepts and theme issues and sweet MOCs. Also, "Hello to you" as I haven't spoken (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) It doesn't bug me. If they're only going to stick around to complain, then I'd rather not have to filter through their posts. (...) Yes, I think it's quite extreme. It puzzles me, but it doesn't upset me. To each his own. -Tim (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) And the same to you. I was asking Giddens where you had disappeared off to a few weeks ago, and now here you are posting again. Good to hear from you! -Tim (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Regardless of their level of skill and expertise, they can and will put the word LEGEND on top of a box if they want to. (...) The change to this set IS minor. This thread is about the new legend, and the slightly changed grey is a minor (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I agree. I get tired of each new thread Jake starts turning into a color complaint. It makes it difficult to enjoy reading a thread. That's probably why I had an edge to the words in my first reply to him. (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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I don't see this as ruining anything. I have read some very interesting posts with the direction this thread has gone. Some things have even given me perspective I had not previously considered. Why should you care, just don't read it! There are (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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And I get equally tired of responses like this one so I suppose we are all just tired. Greg "Rocco J Carello" <rogue27@mac.com> wrote in message news:HxDABH.1FA2@lugnet.com... (...) all (...) new (...) probably why (...) (21 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) That's it. Tell customer service what you think. As for the rest of us, we already know, cause you've already told us...and told us...and told us. -Tim (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) But telling Consumer Affairs is telling it to a black hole. It does nothing. However, as Jake has noted, TLG employees read Lugnet. So stating it here again....and again...and again {might} finally make it sink in as to how important it is to (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Jake has told me, and I believe he's told the group here on LUGNET, that Consumer Affairs *does* track this information and *does* relay it to the appropriate department. But, I suppose that might not be good enough for people who "can never (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) nothing. (...) important (...) Well stated Tom! (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> wrote in message news:409C2822.F2FCB9...faq.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) nothing. (...) important (...) [ ... snipped ... ] I disagree. There comes a point when saying the same thing over and over again (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego) !!
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(...) Yup. Spotlighted. (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) ... snipped ... (...) Now I disagree. While this may true for the readers at LUGNET, how much of this so-called "noise" is actually reaching TLG? No one at TLG (besides Jake) is reading all of these color-change complaints. Sometimes, when the (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Wanna bet? I think you have *no idea* how many people at TLG do or don't read LUGNET, or where they sit in the corporate hierarchy, or whether the thread is actually doing more harm than good or not. I don't have much better info than you do, (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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In lugnet.general, Nick Kappatos wrote: snip (...) This is "the friendliest place on the Internet"?!? (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) I was thinking that too, but in a much different context than what you quoted for your cite. I don't exactly equate nonstop harping, personal attacks, thread hijacks, and general bitterness with friendliness. I think Nick would like to keep it (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) See, now, there's the thing...life changes. Not much really stays the same. Adaptation is not just the response, it's the norm. Your lack of willingness to accept change is going to screw you out of a fun hobby. Over a couple of colors. Is (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) It's also an interesting movie, but I think I need to see it a couple more times before I can really work out if i *like* it or not... But anything with Meryl in it is worth at least a couple of viewings ;) ROSCO (FUT o-t.fun) (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Maybe. It may also drive more and more people away from lugnet, as all the ranting is so infuriating to read. For the moment, lugnet is worse than having to listen to my two teenage boys quarreling. (Back to www.tt-forums.net for something (...) (21 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I can most definately confirm this. Usually after posting links to/pictures of a new MOC I have hosted on my own websites visits coming from the lego.com domain start appearing usually the next day... (21 years ago, 9-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) AFOL means "Adult Fan of LEGO." Clearly you are no longer a fan of LEGO. So please go away so that the rest of us can have our LUGNET back. --Bill. (21 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Had you read (URL) this post> by Greg, you might have noticed this: As far as leaving, keep dreaming. Just because I am no longer a Lego customer, on a retail level, doesn't mean I am giving up on my enjoyment of what I have or the hobby in (...) (21 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I think you can be a fan of the system without being a fan of the company. And I think you can be a fan of the company without being a fan of every decision that it takes. So I don't agree that Greg is no longer an AFOL. (...) I don't want (...) (21 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I'm not sure how anything can be off-topic for .general, considering things like "rumors, musings, weird dreams" are on-topic. But without getting bogged down in what should be posted where... Greg's original point was that he didn't like the (...) (21 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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In lugnet.lego, Marc Nelson, Jr. wrote: [Much snippage] (...) Discuss colors, great. It's the force and vitriol with which it's being done, in my view. I keep up with many AFOLs across the whole community on a daily basis, and I think 95% told me (...) (21 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.admin.general, FTX)
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(...) General is two things, in my view... (1) a place for initial announcements of general interest (which should have FUT set elsewhere, the same way .announce posts do) and a place to discuss things that don't have anywhere else to go. If a (...) (21 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.admin.nntp, FTX)
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