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Re: Expert Builder website - Great response results in first update
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lugnet.general
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Tue, 8 Jan 2002 02:08:43 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Allan Bedford writes:
> In lugnet.general, Richie Dulin writes:
> > You said "the same effect could have been achieved with simple traditional
> > 2x2 bricks". That is not true.
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> I said that "the same effect could have been achieved". The effect of a
> white column. The effect of a building that looks like an elevator shaft.
> The effect of a building with no walls.
No. The effect would be different because there would be no texture on the
columns, there would be no windows, and the structure wouldn't be very stable.
> What I didn't say was that you could make the "exact same
> identical-in-every-way, you can't tell the difference" building using 2x2
> bricks. If it will make you happy I will update this particular line on the
> site to more clearly reflect what I've just said.
That would be good. Maybe you could add the 'I haven't actually built this'
disclaimer when you do?
> Otherwise, I think you've blown it a bit out-of-proportion. I'm one
> guy, running one goofy little
> website. I've posted much more scathing messages about the same set on
> LUGNET (which gets thousands of hits a day) and yet you have jumped all over
> this 'review' on my site (which gets about 20 or 30 hits a day). Can
> someone explain to me the difference in reactions?
Well, you reviewed a set that you haven't built, and that's pretty novel.
And you made incorrect statements about the components.
> This is just.... my..... opinion. Please, Richie.... write a bang on review
> of this set and post it on the web somewhere.
When I get my hands on one for a decent length of time, maybe I will.
> > > The review is my opinion. My opinion
> > > is that those columns aren't worthy of the LEGO name.
> >
> > This is a side issue to the truth and fairness of your reviews, but I'd like
> > to know why you think they aren't worthy of the LEGO name. They are made of
> > the traditional material, interact in various ways with other components,
> > and expand the building possibilities of other components.
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> You should put those comments in your review. You make good points.
Not only good, but true as well. Still, why do you think they aren't worthy
of the LEGO name? I am genuinely interested.
> > But if the messenger has no credibility, rants, looks like an idiot, uses
> > propaganda tricks and expounds untruths, don't you think the message might
> > just get lost in the noise?
>
> I guess I'll just have to take that chance. I don't *feel* as though the
> company is listening to some of it's 'other' customers. Those who aren't
> AFOL's and who don't use LUGNET. WARNING: This is just my opinion and is
> not backed up by fact.
>
> My response to this *feeling* that I have was to begin to post to LUGNET in
> the hopes that someone would like to hear this message. Folks like you
> (Richie) made this painful at times because the message seemed to get lost
> in a tremendous amount of noise... arguing.... bickering..... pointless
> debates. So I took it upon myself to create this site.
So I can take part of the blame for the establishment of the Expert Builder
website?
> There is no profanity on Expert Builder. There is no name calling on
> Expert Builder.
No, but that doesn't make the "reviews" any better.
> No one calls anyone a liar. There is very little background noise..... just
> one customer trying to reach out to a company he dearly loves. If you don't
> like my approach, then please ignore me. I've already publically stated
> that I intend to soon stop posting to LUGNET. It's conversations like this
> one that hash a tiny point to a pulp that cause the real message to get
> "lost in the noise".
I don't think that the your failure to use a product you're claiming to
review is a "tiny point".
Richie
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