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Re: Expert Builder website - Great response results in first update
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Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:32:05 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Allan Bedford writes:
> In lugnet.general, Richie Dulin writes:
> > In lugnet.general, Allan Bedford writes:
> > > In lugnet.general, Richie Dulin writes:
> > > > In lugnet.general, Allan Bedford writes:
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > > Additionally, two more LEGO product reviews have been added. One is of a
> > > > > vintage dream set, the other of a modern nightmare.
> > > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > I realise the 'modern nightmare' you are referring to here is the "Final
> > > > Dual [sic] II", but I would like to challenge you on one of your earlier
> > > > reviews, the much hated Set #4611 - Jack Stone Police Headquarters.
> > > >
> > > > I'm curious whether you've conducted the review on the actual set, or if
> > > > you're just going by photos. From the review, it seems the latter is the case. • [snip]
> > > > The columns included with the Jack Stone sets are not simply replacements
> > > > for stacks of 2x2 brick columns:
> > > >
> > > > - They have...
> > >
> > > (Misc snipped comments on the value of the Jack Stone columns)
> > >
> > > Which is well and good, but doesn't get away from the fact that they are
> > > simply unLEGOlike pieces.
> >
> > UnLEGOlike pieces? They connect to standard studs in two directions, they
> > connect to standard tubes in one, they connect to the standard slot system,
> > they connect to technic axles (I think), and they connect to standard clips.
> > And, yes, they can, more or less substitute for a stack of 2x2 bricks (in
> > most cases). Get hold of some and have a look.
>
> I really have no interest in them.
But you do have an interest in them, because you're making a judgement on them.
> I'm a traditional brick snob, I don't
> hide that.
> They are a specialty piece intended to hide poor design.
They are a specialty piece with multiple uses. They may hide poor *set*
design, but that does not mean that the pieces are bad or unLEGOlike. If you
took the time to actually look at one, you might be able to see that for
yourself.
> I'm
> disappointed by the LEGO company's approach to their own product and a
> review like that is my way of letting them know what one of their customers
> thinks of their work.
But it's not a fair review. It's probably not even fair to call it a review.
>
> > > The review is based entirely on opinion.
> >
> > But not on an actual viewing of the pieces/building of the set. Do you also
> > do movie reviews based on trailers? And book reviews based on the back cover?
>
> It is my hope that I can steer even one parent away from buying one Jack
> Stone set (with that particular review, other reviews are much more
> favorable).
> Based on the numbers of Jack Stone sets still on store shelves
> today, I wonder if my review was even necessary. Looks like a lot of LEGO
> shoppers made up their own minds already.
>
> > > Expert Builder reviews are meant to be entertaining, in the case of good
> > > sets, or to help raise awareness in the case of poor sets.
> >
> > But not based on fact? Your statement "the same effect could have been
> > achieved with simple traditional 2x2 bricks" is just plain wrong.
>
> Then my opinion is wrong, in your mind.
No. Your statement is wrong - the same affect could NOT have been achieved
using 2x2 bricks. Your opinion is your own and neither right nor wrong.
> That is o.k. with me. The comment
> is intended to indicate that better use of traditional LEGO bricks could
> have resulted in a better overall set design.
That may have been your intention, but that isn't what you wrote.
> > Why don't you go and buy one of the sets
>
> It's a personal boycott.
>
> > Play fair.
>
> I was playing entirely fair, according to the mandate of my site.
> Expert Builder is not LUGNET, different rules apply.
No, I don't think you were playing fair: Obviously the rules of LUGNET don't
apply, but I thought you might at least have the courtesy to your readers to
be honest.
> The reviews on Expert Builder are *meant* to be provocative and not
> necessarily kind. I take it from your comments that you're not comfortable
> with these types of reviews, and that's o.k. That's why those comments were
> posted there and not here. I had begun to feel in recent weeks that I was
> posting too many negative comments to LUGNET and perhaps spoiling some
> people's enjoyment of the hobby in this venue. That was the spark behind my
> decision to recreate the Expert Builder site as an "alternative voice for
> LEGO fans"
Maybe you should change that to "we say what we like about LEGO products,
whether it's true or not"
Play fair
Richie Dulin
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