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Re: Expert Builder website - Great response results in first update
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Mon, 7 Jan 2002 05:56:54 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Allan Bedford writes:
In lugnet.general, Richie Dulin writes:
In lugnet.general, Allan Bedford writes:
[snip]
Additionally, two more LEGO product reviews have been added.  One is of a
vintage dream set, the other of a modern nightmare.
[snip]

I realise the 'modern nightmare' you are referring to here is the "Final
Dual [sic] II", but I would like to challenge you on one of your earlier
reviews, the much hated Set #4611 - Jack Stone Police Headquarters.

I'm curious whether you've conducted the review on the actual set, or if
you're just going by photos. From the review, it seems the latter is the case. • [snip]
The columns included with the Jack Stone sets are not simply replacements
for stacks of 2x2 brick columns:

- They have...

(Misc snipped comments on the value of the Jack Stone columns)

Which is well and good, but doesn't get away from the fact that they are
simply unLEGOlike pieces.

UnLEGOlike pieces? They connect to standard studs in two directions, they
connect to standard tubes in one, they connect to the standard slot system,
they connect to technic axles (I think), and they connect to standard clips.
And, yes, they can, more or less substitute for a stack of 2x2 bricks (in
most cases). Get hold of some and have a look.

The review is based entirely on opinion.

But not on an actual viewing of the pieces/building of the set. Do you also
do movie reviews based on trailers? And book reviews based on the back cover?

The Expert Builder site is meant to present alternative reviews of
certain LEGO products.

A review of a product you haven't used? At least put a disclaimer there
saying you haven't actually built the set.

I leave it to the reviews on LUGNET to provide stats and user
feedback, including the excellent rating system.

They could be substituted by 2x2's, but the result wouldn't be as rigid.
2x2's would have plenty of applications, but so do Jack Stone columns.

Did you build the set before you reviewed it? If you did, you failed to give
an accurate picture of those columns.

Expert Builder reviews are meant to be entertaining, in the case of good
sets, or to help raise awareness in the case of poor sets.

But not based on fact? Your statement "the same effect could have been
achieved with simple traditional 2x2 bricks" is just plain wrong.

Based on the number of Jack Stone sets still on store shelves after
Christmas, it appears that many consumers have already seen what a poor line
this is.

Why don't you go and buy one of the sets, and then do a real review?

You may still think its pretty bad, but at least you'll have something more
than some photos do base it on. And the review might have some credibility.

Play fair.

Richie Dulin



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(...) I really have no interest in them. I'm a traditional brick snob, I don't hide that. They are a specialty piece intended to hide poor design. I'm disappointed by the LEGO company's approach to their own product and a review like that is my way (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.general)

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(...) (Misc snipped comments on the value of the Jack Stone columns) Which is well and good, but doesn't get away from the fact that they are simply unLEGOlike pieces. The review is based entirely on opinion. The Expert Builder site is meant to (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.general)

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