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Re: Expert Builder website - Great response results in first update
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Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:46:56 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Richie Dulin writes:
In lugnet.general, Allan Bedford writes:
In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek writes:
But why dilute a powerful message by using propaganda tricks?

Because I'm tired of the compartmentalized views found elsewhere.  I'm
trying something new.  I'm ranting outside the box.  I'm willing to look
like an idiot if it will make even one person pay attention.

Your message
is better than that. You don't need to lie.

I am not sure why you'd say I lied.

You said "the same effect could have been achieved with simple traditional
2x2 bricks". That is not true.

I said that "the same effect could have been achieved".  The effect of a
white column.  The effect of a building that looks like an elevator shaft.
The effect of a building with no walls.

What I didn't say was that you could make the "exact same
identical-in-every-way, you can't tell the difference" building using 2x2
bricks.  If it will make you happy I will update this particular line on the
site to more clearly reflect what I've just said.  Otherwise, I think you've
blown it a bit out-of-proportion.  I'm one guy, running one goofy little
website.  I've posted much more scathing messages about the same set on
LUGNET (which gets thousands of hits a day) and yet you have jumped all over
this 'review' on my site (which gets about 20 or 30 hits a day).  Can
someone explain to me the difference in reactions?

This is just.... my..... opinion.  Please, Richie.... write a bang on review
of this set and post it on the web somewhere.

The review is my opinion.  My opinion
is that those columns aren't worthy of the LEGO name.

This is a side issue to the truth and fairness of your reviews, but I'd like
to know why you think they aren't worthy of the LEGO name. They are made of
the traditional material, interact in various ways with other components,
and expand the building possibilities of other components.

You should put those comments in your review.  You make good points.

What you do now destroys whatever credibility you might have with many.

I have no credibility Larry, therefore nothing to loose.  My review is
nothing worse (in fact it's milder) than some things I've posted to this
website.  If I had a shred of credibility, I'm sure it's gone.  This is just
about making a message heard.  If the messanger gets mocked doing so, then
I'll take that.

But if the messenger has no credibility, rants, looks like an idiot, uses
propaganda tricks and expounds untruths, don't you think the message might
just get lost in the noise?

I guess I'll just have to take that chance.  I don't *feel* as though the
company is listening to some of it's 'other' customers.  Those who aren't
AFOL's and who don't use LUGNET.  WARNING:  This is just my opinion and is
not backed up by fact.

My response to this *feeling* that I have was to begin to post to LUGNET in
the hopes that someone would like to hear this message.  Folks like you
(Richie) made this painful at times because the message seemed to get lost
in a tremendous amount of noise... arguing.... bickering..... pointless
debates.  So I took it upon myself to create this site.  There is no
profanity on Expert Builder.  There is no name calling on Expert Builder.
No one calls anyone a liar.  There is very little background noise..... just
one customer trying to reach out to a company he dearly loves.  If you don't
like my approach, then please ignore me.  I've already publically stated
that I intend to soon stop posting to LUGNET.  It's conversations like this
one that hash a tiny point to a pulp that cause the real message to get
"lost in the noise".

Regards,
Allan B.

- The Expert Builder website
- http://www.apotome.com/builder/index.htm

Regards,
Allan B.

- The Expert Builder website
- http://www.apotome.com/builder/index.htm



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(...) No. The effect would be different because there would be no texture on the columns, there would be no windows, and the structure wouldn't be very stable. (...) That would be good. Maybe you could add the 'I haven't actually built this' (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jan-02, to lugnet.general)

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  Re: Expert Builder website - Great response results in first update
 
(...) You said "the same effect could have been achieved with simple traditional 2x2 bricks". That is not true. (...) This is a side issue to the truth and fairness of your reviews, but I'd like to know why you think they aren't worthy of the LEGO (...) (22 years ago, 8-Jan-02, to lugnet.general)

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