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Mladen Pejic... Cool down.
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lugnet.general
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Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:41:44 GMT
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I am going to Copy and Paste and email he sent me, my reply, and then his
reply. I will edit it out for the younger viwers because he decided to use
language not appropriate.
MLADEN'S ORIGINAL EMAIL
> Both your Wolf Spider M02 spidermech (http://brickshelf.com/cgi->bin/gallery.cgi?f=4302) and Scorpion M01 (http://brickshelf.com/cgi->bin/gallery.cgi?f=3803) are directly inspired by my Spidertank(http://members.attcanada.ca/~milovan/Spidertank.htm). The whole leg design on >the Scorpion is mine, and the twin gun turret on your Wolf Spider is directly >inspired by my Spidertank.
> Please upload a text file name Credit.txt to both of those models Brickshelf >folders, explaining that those designs are mine or were inspired by my >Spidertank. I would also like a link to my Spidertank webpage: >http://members.attcanada.ca/~milovan/Spidertank.htm.
> Also, in this picture, http://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=42701, and >in this folder of pictures, http://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=4267, >you have used Jeremy Sproat's Zhillch Levitator model >(http://www.io.com/~jsproat/lego/hmsds/zhillch.shtml). You really ought to >give him credit for this design as well.
> You really should have done all these things without me having to tell you to.
> Mladen Pejic
> http://members.attcanada.ca/~milovan/index.htm
> ---
> I also want you to GIVE ME CREDIT on your website for the same models.
> Thank you.
Here is my reply email.
> Dear Mr. Pejic,
> With all due respect, I appreciate your concern over the similarity of >your models over mine. I have talked to two people in the BrickLUG chat room >over this issue and they say their is a simularity but only in the knee >joints. The two people I talked to are current Mecha builers. Abd about this >being your design sir, I believe that it is not. I sat down one November >Saturday and thought of how to do this. Now, if two .space builders both use >tires for engine caps is the first one going to say it is his idea? I do not >believe so. The Scorpion M01 Spidermech is partially based on the Dragoon >from the Blizzard game StarCraft, and a design I came up with after playing >the first disc of Final Fantasy 7. About the Wolf Spider M02, their is a more >startaling resembelnce in that one, but it is a reincarnation from my MFA->01 "Bowzer" Spidermech. I disliked the design of the Bowzer and thought of >one cannon, based primarily off to the left or right side, but I eventuly >split it into two for the weight deistribution to be correct. The carrige of >that is a modification of the one I came up with for the Scorpion based on >the Dragoon from StarCraft.
> The Zhillich Levitator design is Mr. Sproat's. I will say that right >away because I was having trouble coming up with a design for the Trk'Pahn. >He asked if I wanted to use his design and I accepted. When I design the page >for the Trk'Pahn ships and technology I will give Mr. Sproat the full credit >he deserves. But, until I do, the pictures are waiting 'in stock' if you >will. The site for 'Enemies of Confed' is quite bare as you can see if you >read the page. Now, if you wish to claim that my nanofig ships are based on >Karim Nassar's Pallas Spaceworks, they are. I started this after seeing his >site and seeing how easy it was to make nanofig ships. I have talked to him >and he has said as long as they are not directly based on his design (I.E. >editing a DAT file, etc.) they would not fall under his copyright policy.
> You said that I should have done this without your telling me too. >Granted you caught me with the Zhillich Levitator (Trk'Pahn), that is only >because I have not got there yet with my website. I will give him the full >credit when I move more into the Trk'Pahn ships and creatures. With my >Spidermechs similar to yours, I am not responsible for your design looking >like mine or likewise. If all fighters that have the standard cockpit look >like somebody elses are they copied from one another? I believe not. I hope >this settles your argument.
> With all due respect...
> Richard Hallman
And finally, the EDITED version of his email. All eddited will be astricks.
> No you arrogant little punk!
> The leg design on your scorpion is MINE!!! Please give me credit for it!!!!
> *******! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO COPY AN IDEA FROM ME AND THEN THINK THAT IT IS YOUR OWN!!!
> GIVE ME CREDIT FOR THAT ******* DESIGN!
> This is my one and only wish! Please do this.
> If you do this and don't copy anything, anymore from my website I will be SATISFIED!
> If you don't at least give me credit for the Scorpion leg design, I will get support from other LUGNETers and you can count on getting e-mail from them!
>
> DO IT!
>
> Mladen
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Message has 8 Replies:
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| You're not going to get Mladen to cool down - he flies off the handle quite easily. I'm not going to waste my time trying to track down his physical age, but his temper tantrums put him mentally at about 5-6. He seems to think that ANYthing he (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.general)
| | | Re: Mladen Pejic... Cool down.
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| In lugnet.general, Rick Hallman writes: [a lot of stuff...] Dudes, you should be robbing from each other with impunity -- think of it as brainstorming mecha ideas. -- Hop-Frog (shrugging the world off his shoulders...) (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.general)
| | | Re: Mladen Pejic... Cool down.
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| Oh geez, not again. I suppose then that because of the standards Mladen holds others to, he should credit the creator of the internet and the creator of HTML because afterall, he uses web pages to show off his work, and that's not original. Then (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.general)
| | | Re: Mladen Pejic... Cool down.
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| Alright, I've read this entire thread, and feel that I need to comment, not that what I say will change anything, but I am compelled. In my opinion, both Rick and Mladen are wrong in what they did. Yes, Rick should not have posted the emails, even (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.general)
| | | Re: Mladen Pejic... Cool down.
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| <snip> Okay, I'm going to say this, as I've been feeling it for a while. I am a relative newcomer to Lugnet, but I've seen this issue come up a number of times in the past, particularly involving Mladen. Lugnet's existence is a great service to us; (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.general)
| | | Re: Mladen Pejic... Cool down.
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| Rick seems to be contradicting himself at least on one point. He states that his Scorpion M01 Spidermech was not based off of Mladen's. (...) But, in an earlier post (announcing the creation of his Scorpion M01 Spidermech) he acknowledged to Mladen (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.general)
| | | Re: Mladen Pejic... Cool down.
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| I gave up on flames a while ago, but Rick...very poor form posting a private email publicly. Attack Mladen all you want. Disagree with him all you want. But posting his email was just plain old poor form. Bryce (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.general)
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