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Re: Mladen Pejic... Cool down.
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Thu, 7 Jun 2001 20:37:10 GMT
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Maggie Cambron wrote:
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
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> > > > Actually, I hear its bad form to publish private email content to a public
> > > > forum without the permission of the author.
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> > > That's interesting. I generally assume that anything I send might end up
> > > in such a forum, whether I wish it or not, so I usually try to comport
> > > myself in a way I wouldn't be embarrassed to own up to later (though my
> > > correspondents may beg to differ!)
> >
> > AFAIK, E-mail is generally considered private. Much like other personal
> > correspondance. Obviously it's not a very enforcable convention, but there
> > ya go.
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> I'm with Richard and James on this, one should NEVER share someone's private
> email without permission (I mean unless it contains a serious death threat or
> something). I do agree that it is safer to assume that what one says could end
> up in a public forum, so I would not say anything I preferred to keep private
> unless I completely trusted my correspondent.
While as a general rule I agree with this, I think there also is a time
for asking what others think of a communication one has received. In
this case, perhaps Rick didn't have to share the whole e-mail, but I
understand his desire for wondering how the community as a whole really
feels and did he really do something wrong, or was Mladen being
unreasonable. Perhaps he should have just shared the e-mail with Todd (a
specific threat was made relative to Lugnet, I think that does suggest
its reasonable to at least contact Todd, just like I shared a threat
another Serious Collector bidder made to me once).
From a legal standpoint, the author of an e-mail or letter certainly
owns copyright, and then any re-publication will be looked from a
standpoint of "fair use." I think just about any court would find
re-publication of excerpts in an endeavor to understand a threat which
is being made is "fair use", even if those threats are not death
threats.
Just my thoughts as someone who seems to be under the spotlight (though
entirely publicly) myself .
--
Frank Filz
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Work: mailto:ffilz@us.ibm.com (business only please)
Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com
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| (...) Good point. "Fair use" probably has a much broader than usual definition when applied to interpersonal correspondence. Snail-mail letters are made public all the time, often via media "leaks," but they're released nonetheless. I'm not sure how (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) I'm with Richard and James on this, one should NEVER share someone's private email without permission (I mean unless it contains a serious death threat or something). I do agree that it is safer to assume that what one says could end up in a (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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