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Re: CASTLE ALIVE (Re: banner year for castle)
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Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:00:30 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Yaron Dori wrote:
   I have to agree that this is probably the worst castle ever (even worse then 6098), but as James said, new weapons, alot of new helmets/visors, new colors for the horse head cover, a great executer mini-fig and alot of parts to use for our castle’s so who cares that it’s not TLC best models ever.

Glorious bad castles!

I’m not pleased with the mixture of old and new here. Flame me for saying this, but I think Lego would be advantaged by dumping all old Castle elements in favor of all new ones that are designed in a shared style. For example, the old and new helmets. There are new curvy helms (plus not so old jousting helms), and they clash with the same-old-morion-nose-guard thingies designed in an era when all minifigs smiled. To go with the brightly colored bascinets, imagine if there were an all-new morion-style helm with just a noseguard sticking down, not a perfect cone either.

And Jack Stone platforms in Castle? Stylistically, they have vertical slots and round holes. (brown 12x12 base and grey 12x12 base in 8780.) These are new parts, but the markings don’t share anything stylistically with CASTLE. Technic maybe.. (sorry Technic.) Dump all the pre-built wall elements and redo them Jack Stone style (horrors), or do like Megabloks and make an all-new Castley wall building system. Make it bold and curvy, or stony and blocky, you have the ability to do it Lego, as you did the banana slopes for Star Wars which still work well as a system!

Now for the trans-neon spear. Is that a wizard, or a fisherman? The swords are made new, now it’s time for a spear, or at least a Staff, to get designed. Ditto old axes - they’re too slim and elemental to go with the new swords (or even the not-new halberds.)

Megabloks still has the advantage that it looks good together. Lego is playing catch-up, leveraging old stuff, with not terribly good effect.

Anyway, the blue-accented castle (upper right) is not unattractive. This (8781) has more angles than I ever recall on a Lego castle and the pyramid shape is weirdly satisfying. But the one on the left (8780) looks like Lego cliches. I was thinking these were as bad as 6097 - 6098 is better proportioned and colored, if less defensible.

8780 - why oh why do castles need a platform on 4 pillars for a keep? (To allow fingers to get in, naturally.) Ack.

I’ve not been too crazy about buying Castle sets but when these come around I do want to see inside...

8780 - Starter Castle. 8781 - Cool. 8779 - Fresh update of a corny concept out of “Thundarr the Barbarian” and “He-Man”. 8778 - this may be the cleanest, most likable out of the lot. (Lose the flames, Lego, and make a real torch, no not a classic space gun with a cone either.) Looks like Adventurers designed this one for Castle! 8777 - nice impulse set.

-Erik



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  Re: CASTLE ALIVE (Re: banner year for castle)
 
(...) Actually, the Armada Pirates helmet is the morion. What you refer to as a morion is more of a spangen-constructed Norman/Viking style. It's hard to tell with blurry pictures, but the new open faced helmet looks like a barbutte and is another (...) (21 years ago, 17-Dec-03, to lugnet.castle, FTX)

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  CASTLE ALIVE (Re: banner year for castle)
 
(...) First of all let me shout: "YO HO", finally after 3 years, new Castle's sets Castle's alive once more I have to agree that this is probably the worst castle ever (even worse then 6098), but as James said, new weapons, alot of new (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.castle, FTX)  

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