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Re: CASTLE ALIVE (Re: banner year for castle)
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Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:29:45 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Yaron Dori wrote:

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   First of all let me shout: “YO HO”, finally after 3 years, new Castle’s sets Castle’s alive once more

Yes, it is good to see some non-HP Castle sets in the works. It’s annoying to have to wait till Summer to see them but eh..it’s not so far off. :)


   I have to agree that this is probably the worst castle ever (even worse then 6098), but as James said, new weapons, alot of new helmets/visors, new colors for the horse head cover, a great executer mini-fig and alot of parts to use for our castle’s so who cares that it’s not TLC best models ever. Have you notice how the small minifigs looks very like the Knights Kingdom Bionicles stuff?

C’mon now... I think that’s a little harsh. ;) It’s not the “worst” castle.. but it’s no Black Monarch’s either. Actually, if given the choice between this castle and 6098, I think I’d go with this one because of all the gray. I agree it isn’t the best set they have released. And it’ll be “new” gray I’d think but.. eh... Let’s not get back into a debate on the color change. ;)

As for the pieces in the set(s)

There a ton of gray slopes and over all this looks like a ‘bigger’ castle at least in bulk/body. I wonder what the piece count is. I’d imaging it’s comparable to 6098, etc.

Those diamond shaped windows look to me like they could be 2x2 tall slopes with 1x2 inverse 45degree slopes atop them. That would be very nice but even if it is one single piece, it’s a great shape and size for a new window style.

I, too, look forward to having access to armor again, and new weapon styles, helms and barding and all of them in more colors than we’ve had previously. It even looks like there will be armor in (dare I say it?) black.

There are many interesting colors or pieces - In 8780 -- there’s a 2x2x3 dkGray brick with what looks like a small arched window in each side and some sort of beam that appears to connect into it.. That could be very interesting. As are the 3x4x6 panel walls with the arched barred window inserts. A far better/more useful design than the original style IMO.

The upshot to me is that TLG does appear to be interested in Castle still. They are giving us a new NON-HP castle for the first time since 1999/2000. What’s more, there appear to be more bricks than pre-fab pieces in this set than there have been in Castles since the 90’s... One may not need a ton of gray slopes but they’re better than some alternatives I could think of... :)

   Again the main importent is that Castle’s lives again and this time for good!!!!

While we can only hope it’s for good, this is a great start at reviving the theme. I’m looking forward to seeing these sets in the store.

With luck TLG will continue to take our (calm) input - for or against their approaches - into consideration and use (some of) it to drive(1) future set creation as well as using the input of kids, such as this new subtheme appears to have been primarily based on.

JJ

(1) The use of the 45 degree end slopes on castle walls are the first thing I noticed. This is the first time I recall them doing that. That’s something AFOL’s have done for some years (I can’t remember if Pawel’s Blut’Ader was the first castle to use it but it’s the one that comes to mind first). I think that’s a great incorporation.



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  Re: CASTLE ALIVE (Re: banner year for castle)
 
(...) Unfortunately, it's the legacy of Jack Stone: (URL) I think the reason for all the juniorized parts is that it could be cheaper to produce and handle, say, one 1x2x5 than five 1x2s. Or, one BURP rock vs. the equivalent several dozen bricks. (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.castle, FTX)
  Re: CASTLE ALIVE (Re: banner year for castle)
 
(...) the piece count: 8777 meeting with vladek - 40 8778 ambush in the border - 175 8779 the great match - 308 8780 orlan's fortress - 428 8781 morcia castle - 508 LBaixinho (21 years ago, 20-Dec-03, to lugnet.castle, FTX)

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(...) First of all let me shout: "YO HO", finally after 3 years, new Castle's sets Castle's alive once more I have to agree that this is probably the worst castle ever (even worse then 6098), but as James said, new weapons, alot of new (...) (21 years ago, 16-Dec-03, to lugnet.castle, FTX)  

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