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    [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
   If someone would like their well-done Povray rendered model displayed on the ldraw.org main page, please let me know. There will be a little paragraph describing LDraw and I feel it is appropriate to include a small image of a rather impressive (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
   
        Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Thomas Burger
     (...) HAHAHAHAHA tim your a god! the idea of a model aweek/month is great. about the POVRAY image yes i got the perfect model. as you may, or may not know all my model images are done in povray and i got several model files availible. just one (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
   
        Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
     (...) The model of the week/month would be nice, but its not high on the priority list right now. We can display one model for a while before implementing a regular featured model. At this time I just want a model to display on the main page. We can (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
   
        Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Steve Bliss
     (...) What's wrong with the model already being used? And why a POV-Ray? This isn't pov-ray.org, it's ldraw.org. To be completely pure, it should be an image generated by LDraw. But an LDLite-sourced image would be very nice, as well. Also, IMO, an (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
    
         Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Todd Lehman
      (...) Heck, as long as it loads quickly and doesn't get in the way, I sure wouldn't mind seeing a POV-rendered image on the www.ldraw.org homepage. Sure, www.ldraw.org isn't www.povray.org, but over time POV-Ray is becoming more and more a part of (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
    
         Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
      (...) Yeah... (...) Good thought, but ldraw.org is not going to have a splash page like is up there now. When it goes live, the main page with all the info will be displayed. something like that would be more suited for a splash page. So I'm looking (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Todd Lehman
       (...) I'm no psychologist, so I can't back up any of this with scientific evidence, but I just meant that perhaps a model that was so pointy and sharp might be more intimidating to certain types of new people stopping by than a model that was (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Todd Lehman
       (...) Hee hee. Maybe, maybe not. I agree that it would be an incredible challenge, but I'll bet that it's not impossible. :) Have you seen Escher's famous _Metamorphose_II_? Here's a thumbnail of it, broken into five parts because it's one long (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
       (...) WOW! That's cool :) (...) Heh...yeah. (...) No problem :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If someone tells you you're worth your weight in gold, fatten up. (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
      (...) Right. What you're saying makes sense 100%. Though buried in the subconsciousness of the viewer, it does play a part in how they will feel about the site and about the software by the model. (...) Hehe :) As you can see, I'm a space-head too. (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Todd Lehman
       (...) Hey yeah, a daily, weekly, or monthly featured-model thingy could be a lot of fun for people! BTW, have you ever seen Joe Lauher's pages? (URL) did a model-a-month thing a while back for official TLG models (he built them and then took (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
      (...) I didn't take a serious look at the site until today. He did a nice job at it and I like reading about the models of the month. Good system he has come up with. About the image, it was good for the page and for a header logo use, but still not (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Terry Keller
      (...) More feed: It would be interesting to have a pool of similar-sized images that the server could select from to display when a visitor arrives. That way, it would be a different image each time. (sorry for the fractured explanation - what I'm (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Jacob Sparre Andersen
       Terry: (...) Sounds like a nice idea. I could set something like that up - if somebody just collects and organises the images. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
      (...) Yes, good idea, Terry. I think we should go that route. Right now I'm awaiting the delivery of a rendering of a truck for the first image. We can proceed to collect images for this slot at this time. A good 10 or 15 of them would be nice. I (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Terry Keller
       (...) Cool. Thanks Jacob, Tim. I might do a couple myself. Maybe it would be a good idea to devise a list of rules for submitting images? Max and minimum dimensional size, format, file size, restrict/allow text over the image, that sort of thing? (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
      
           Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Jacob Sparre Andersen
       Terry: (...) I think the most important rule is that the submission should be a LDraw file and instructions for creating the image. That way others can learn from some good examples. 1) LDraw file 2) Arguments for l2p or l3p 3) Modification of the (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
      
           Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Jacob Sparre Andersen
       (...) Since people use many other tools than just LDraw and l2p/l3p, it is probably not a good idea to demand a _machine_ friendly explanation of the path from DAT file to finished image. It is actually more important that it is _user_ friendly, if (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
      
           Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Steve Bliss
        (...) That's what I thought when I read your earlier post. It would be very intriguing to see what images people can create, using LDraw as a base tool, but not limited to that. For example, Terry suggested that no text be allowed over the image. I (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
      
           Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
       (...) Right. LDraw can be used as the base for an LDLite rendering, a Povray image, VRML walkthrough, etc, ad infinitum. (...) Correct. As long as the text enhances the image and doesn't put some website name over it, go for it. (...) That's what I (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
      
           Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Terry Keller
        (...) That sounds good. I was just fretting over the blatant plugs. A title or graphic that adds to the appeal of the image is great. I worry most about the keeping the overall look clean and professional. I would hate to see blatant promotion or (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
      
           Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
       (...) Yes, poo on advertising. And yes, my goal is the clean and professional look as well. Does someone want to volunteer to work with the model of the month aspect? Use the main template to generate a page for it. Also a submission system. Jacob (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
      (...) Cool. BTW - just checked out your OLV - BREATHTAKING MODEL! (...) I would say 200 pixels wide, required. Min height 100, max height 200. .jpg format. No text over image. The image will get a caption and a link to the owner's site (or model of (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Steve Bliss
       (...) Certain texts are tacky. But some would be very cool. Anything that adds to the image would be good. Steve (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
       (...) Right. I see what you're saying. But obviously no 'mypage.com' or '(c) Jonh Doe' etc.. -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If someone tells you you're worth your weight in gold, fatten up. (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Terry Keller
       (...) Uhh, thanks. But I ain't about to do that in LDraw. :-) (...) Exactly that type of thing. But the min/max height will really be dependant on the space you allot the image on the page. And don't forget width - you might have to have width (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
      (...) Awww, c'mon! :) Well, at least you can leave it together lest there be some rare case I'm in Phoenix... ;) (...) The layout (for the main page) is like it is right now. It will be updated with what's going on, and in a little bit I'll take (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Terry Keller
       (...) It's still together (other than a bit here and there). I don't have room to re-assimilate it into the collective. (...) Sounds good to me. Keep up the good work. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 14-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
      (...) So you're saying those pieces take up less precious space together than apart? Cool :) Love the excuse to keep an awesome model together :) -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Get paid to surf the web! Visit: (URL) (25 years ago, 14-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Terry Keller
      (...) No. Actually I am saying that my careful plans to create a storage system did not adequately take into account the concept of expansion. :-/ In other words, I can't cram it all back in. And to make things worse, I am running out of shelf space (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
    
         Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Jacob Sparre Andersen
      Steve: (...) Well, who wants to do the work? I wouldn't mind helping with the infrastructure to limit the amount of work that actually has to be done. - Adding new models to the collection - Showing random models from the collection - "Voting" on (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
    
         Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
     (...) Should we go the voting route and let the visitors choose the model of the week/month from the pile? Or should we do that ourselves and rotate them some? And what should it be, week or month? Week would be more variety, but month would be less (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
    
         Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Jacob Sparre Andersen
      Tim: (...) I would like to have "advisory voting". People get to vote, but whoever is responsible has the final word. (...) Looking at lugnet.cad.dat.models, I would say a month. Only three new models in the last week (and there should be _some_ (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Fredrik Glöckner
       (...) I'm sure there are lots of people who don't post on lugnet.cad.dat.models. Besides, some people probably have a large backcatalogue of models which can be used. Still, once a month sounds good to me, too. That way, it will not impose too much (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
      
           Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Jacob Sparre Andersen
       Fredrik Glöckner: (...) I certainly do. (...) I would like something that shows off the posibilities with LDraw and related tools. The two important rules are[1]: 1) Include a description of how you made the image. 2) Include the LDraw file with the (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
      
           Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Jacob Sparre Andersen
        I see I didn't answer Fredrik's questions clearly. I'll try one more time: (...) That means: - The size doesn't really matter. - Neither does the tools (but POV-Ray makes the most impressive images). - And the same with artificially made backdrops (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
      
           Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Steve Bliss
       (...) I agree! You read my mind. Steve (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
       (...) Large is good, either way though. Whatever you feel is your best work and whatever you would like to see there. Povray would be best, but ldlite is acceptable. You can do artificial backdrops, see the nebula backdrop on the featured Explorien (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Terry Keller
       (...) No argument from me. That is pretty much how part voting has evolved. (devolved?) Sometimes, a contrary decision must be made. (...) Yes. We could do it somewhat like the entries in the IRTC: (URL) I don't mean to say a full-blown competition, (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
      (...) I agree as well. (...) I like your rendering! :) What kind of ships are those? -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If someone tells you you're worth your weight in gold, fatten up. (25 years ago, 12-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Terry Keller
       (...) Thanks. :-) Surprised me when he accepted it - I just sent it in as a lark. They are E-Wings, from the Guide to Vehicles and Vessels. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 14-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
     
          Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
      (...) Yeah, I'm surprised they accepted Lego renderings myself... -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Get paid to surf the web! Visit: (URL) (25 years ago, 14-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
    
         Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
     (...) Yes. (...) Good plan. (...) Right. IMO a good rendering is a good rendering (Ldraw, ldlite, pov..), whether or not it contains a TLG model or an MOC. We would like to see MOC's, but still, some TLG models are very nicely done. Like the (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
   
        Re: [ldraw.org] Cover Model —Tim Courtney
   (...) An interesting and valid point. I was thinking povray since it has a much more impressive look to it. I suppose something from LDLite would work. (...) Well, I was meaning 'impressive' in the sense of a well done model that doesn't have to be (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jul-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 

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