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Re: Allow posting & FUT to member email
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lugnet.admin.suggestions
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Tue, 9 Apr 2002 04:15:32 GMT
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2002 times
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.admin.suggestions, William R. Ward writes:
> > William R Ward <bill@wards.net> writes:
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> > > The standard NNTP behavior is to set "Followup-To: poster" in the
> > > header.
> > >
> > > I'm doing that on this message, let's see if it works.
> >
> > Looks like it works just fine (I overrode the followup-to rule in
> > order to post this message). If you try to reply to the above message
> > in NNTP it sends e-mail. Does it do the same for web and SMTP users?
> >
> > If so, we've got our answer - put it in the FAQ and call this one
> > done.
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> Strongly disagree. As I said offline (and that's annoying in and of itself,
> having to say things twice because of an not easily overrideable FUT), this
> breaks threading. Since from the web there is no easy way to override the
> FUT without starting a new post or anchoring somewhere else, it changes a
> suggestion of where one ought to FUT to into a mandate that cannot be
> circumvented.
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> Anything that breaks threading is bad... c.f. the flogging Ben Whytecross
> got because his mail program was deranged and broke threads.
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> If there were to be any FAQ entry at all on this, my vote would be that this
> technique *not* be used as it breaks things.
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> FUTs are, at the root, suggestions, not mandates. Proper ettiquette suggests
> careful use of them, yes, but it is rude to prevent the responder from
> setting FUT as he sees fit if he has good reason for doing so.
I agree completely.
But that's not the issue that started all this. The request was, as the
subject says, to "allow posting & FUT to member email". This issue is solved
by the use of "Followup-To: poster".
However, a *new* issue has arisen as a result of our experimenting with this
feature: the fact that the web interface, unlike most newsreaders, do not
permit you to override it. As you saw in an earlier message from me, it is
possible to maintain the thread and override the suggestion using a newsreader,
but based on your experience this can not be done through the web interface.
So, the new question is, how should the web interface deal with this?
--Bill.
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| (...) Well arguably it's not solved. No more or less than the problem of 2 termites in your house would be solved by blowing the entire house up, anyway. (it's late, forgive my poor analogy, but the idea is that the fix isn't a fix if it's worse (...) (22 years ago, 9-Apr-02, to lugnet.admin.suggestions)
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| (...) Strongly disagree. As I said offline (and that's annoying in and of itself, having to say things twice because of an not easily overrideable FUT), this breaks threading. Since from the web there is no easy way to override the FUT without (...) (22 years ago, 9-Apr-02, to lugnet.admin.suggestions)
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