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Re: LEGO trains...The Future of Model Railroading?
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Wed, 24 Nov 1999 01:55:13 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Frank Filz writes:
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> Jim Rorstrom wrote in message ...
> > In lugnet.trains, Frank Filz writes:
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> > > Of course what we could run into is that the LEGO train hobby dies a
> > > horrible death when TLC gets tired of letters from parents complaining
> > > that their kid is no longer happy with the 4'x8' HO train layout which
> > > was put together for under $1000 and now wants them to spend $10,000 or
> > > more on LEGO sets after seeing one of our shows and buying a LEGO train
> > > set.
> >
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> > I bet it's closer to even money, if you compare to the good HO, not the • junk.
> > Lego in never junk, even if we don't always like the design. I have spent • a
> > few thousand on both N-scale and LEGO in the past 5 years and I feel I get • at
> > least as much value with the LEGO. If the parents (above) have already
> > invested hundreds or thousands in non-train LEGO kits for their kids than • the
> > scales tip to LEGO.
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> Well, the cost depends very much on whether you require all the scenery to
> be LEGO pure. The GMLTC layout would be far more expensive to create than a
> similar quality HO or N gauge setup. You can't compare LEGO to Brass engines
> and craftsman wood kits, you need to compare it to quality plastic kits. You
> can get an HO train for the same or lower cost than the LEGO trains. The
> structures will cost about the same, or very possibly less. The terrain and
> foliage for a 4'x8' layout could be done for a couple hundred bucks, whereas
> LEGO terrain would cost you at least a thousand dollars (one layer of 2x4
> bricks on an approximately 4'x8' area takes 10,000 bricks, which is 100
> dollars at 1 cent a brick, but of course if you want bricks in a specific
> color, you either need to break down buckets/tubs and sell the bricks you
> don't want, or pay 10 cents a brick or so, foliage is going to cost a lot
> more).
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> Existing sets is not going to tip the balance much. Notice that no one other
> than the GMLTC is doing modules the way they are, and the reason they are
> able to do so is due to a once in a lifetime person who happens to have more
> bricks than most people could even remotely conceive of.
Sorry Frank Deeppockets Filz, (you always outbid me on eBay!) but there is at
least one other who is making modules - me. I am trying to get people in
California to have an LTC here, but have been too busy at work to really push
it right now. But rest assured, the GMLTC is not the only one making
modules. If they come out the San Jose for the NMRA convention, they will
find me there with 5 modules to tie into their system, if they want. (If not,
I will be kind of stranded on the mainline, which won't be able to loop until
I get 8 modules made!) My plan is to have a 12 module layout of my own. I
should be there in about 3 years, if I am lucky.
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> Now if we change direction and allow non-LEGO terrain, what guideline do you
> then use to determine if a layout is pure or not?
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> Part of what this whole debate boils down to is what each individual modeler
> decides is right for them. LEGO trains also aren't the only theme which
> brings this into question. People are doing L-Draw models using bricks in
> colors TLC does not make available to us. People are photographing their
> models in non-LEGO settings (and even TLC does this).
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> > All those sets suddenly have new possibilities. Try to
> > do that with HO.
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> This to me is what makes LEGO trains an interesting and valid hobby. It also
> does not the least bit require that the only supplier of the parts be TLC.
>
> Frank
Thank you Frank! Now I can use the three 1x1 clear Tyco Lampshades I have!
(Any purist out there have any they don't want? I will pay you for them!)
Mike Poindexter
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| I'm going to toss in a few more pennies out of my pocket, I am not a lego purist. I cut up lego to get it to fit. I use RS switches, and Tech 2 powerpacks. I use PVC pipe for Pnumatics. I have a battery box that has had major sugery done to it to (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| Mike Poindexter wrote in message ... (...) other (...) more (...) at I don't ALWAYS outbid you... I looked at an auction just today which you had bid on which I didn't bid on... (...) push (...) not, (...) until (...) What is your cost per module (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| Jim Rorstrom wrote in message ... (...) junk. (...) a (...) at (...) the (...) Well, the cost depends very much on whether you require all the scenery to be LEGO pure. The GMLTC layout would be far more expensive to create than a similar quality HO (...) (25 years ago, 24-Nov-99, to lugnet.trains)
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