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Re: LEGO trains...The Future of Model Railroading?
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Date: 
Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:09:26 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

> Mostly I agree, BUT....
> 
> John Neal wrote:
> 
> > I disagree.  We are all here because we enjoy LEGO.  Trains just happens to
> > be one theme in the LEGO family.  Why should we rush out and bring in
> > non-LEGO material?
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > Getting back to trains, if you really want all of the things the MRR world
> > has to offer, why model in LEGO?  Why not just model in "O" gauge?  There
> > are plenty of opportunities to build in MRR, and from scratch-- arguably a
> > more creative process than building with bricks.
> 
> Not more, not less. Just a different type of creativity. I've expounded
> on this before: what we do is work in a medium and we, when we stay
> "pure", are working within the limits of the medium. My goal is to get
> the best representation I can within the limits imposed.

Agreed.

> > > What we do want to promote is maintaining a LEGO feel to our efforts.
> > 
> > Not possible.  If it isn't ALL LEGO, then it will cease to have a LEGO
> > feel.  We at the GMLTC are proud to say that *everything* on the layout is
> > LEGO (save decals).  That has impact.  Once you open Pandora's box of
> > non-LEGO accessories, watch out.  The slope is slippery, and the shades are
> > gray...
> 
> You dilute your own argument because you use decals, you know...

Perhaps, but somehow I find decals an excusable exception.  They have so many
applications <sorry> other than trains.  Think Joe Davenport and his farm, etc
things.  I don't think that they lesson the purity concept in the same way other
suggestions would.

> the
> slope may only be 1 degree at that point, but it's a slope and you're
> started down it. (Tubing and string are not the same in kind because
> Lego does make tubing and does make string that looks exactly like what
> we use)
> 
> > All of your ideas, Frank, are good ones, but I think 1) no manufacturer
> > would ever invest as such for such a tiny market and so the point is moot,
> > and b) wouldn't it be awesome if TLC did these things?  I think *that* is
> > where we should be directing our efforts.
> 
> Disagree with 1). The MR market has lots of manufacturers who have
> solved the small production run problem. I support some third party
> making things (at the same quality level as TLG) that TLG COULD make if
> they chose to,  but hasn't chosen to.
> 
> Agree with b). it would be nice. How to get them to?

I don't know, but this is where we should be expending our energies.

-John

> Show them there is
> a market, and maybe make some coin at it. I am going to move my hopper
> to more of a commercialish product... maybe.
> 
> --
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Mostly I agree, BUT.... (...) <snip> (...) Not more, not less. Just a different type of creativity. I've expounded on this before: what we do is work in a medium and we, when we stay "pure", are working within the limits of the medium. My goal is to (...) (27 years ago, 23-Nov-99, to lugnet.trains)

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