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(...) by the amount of attention you've given to functionality, realism, and appearance. Usually, that's a pick-one-or-two sort of proposition, but this combines all three very nicely. Lego should make this into a set. (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) That's an interesting point - one of the great things about designing models like this is that you don't have to worry about things like the cost of the set relative to how it is going to look on the shop shelf. In this case, there are three (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I dunno about that. Didn't someone here say that he/she found the 8480 Space Shuttle too difficult to build? Given that LEGO sets are, after all, children's toys, I think they should comprise fairly simple mechanics and construction, so that (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I'm not quite sure I agree, I think some kids are probably are a lot more intelligent than we give them credit for, and I think they are getting brighter?? Where Jennifers models really score for me is the attention to detail and that sort of (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) It means "to comprehend deeply". (URL) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I'm not saying all Technic models should be like Jennifer's; just that some should. The technic space shuttle took me a long time to assemble, and I enjoyed the whole process. It's really neat to see how something that complicated fits (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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In lugnet.technic, Mike McFarlane writes: <snippage> (...) Grok is a word coined by Robert Heinlien in his book, Stranger in a Strange Land I did a web search and found this page on Grok: (URL) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Ah, but some of maintain the hope that Lego will make sets that are intended for adults or gifted children to use. I'd pay a premium (over and above the component costs) for a set as feature-packed and mechanically ingenious as any of (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) (URL) That's pretty nifty. Dave! Dave! (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) ..Snip.. (...) Why not have a new Technic range to include models of this complexity? They already have Starter and Advanced, so why not have an Expert range? Martin (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) grok gro+k, v. U.S. slang. Also grock. Arbitrary formation by Heinlein (see quot. 1961). a. trans. (also with obj. clause) To understand intuitively or by empathy; to establish rapport with. b. intr. To empathize or communicate sympathetically (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) You mean some sort of "Expert Builder" line? :) (URL) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Exactly, they should bring this back to life. The last set in this line was in 1984, seems they could put more complex models in this range, maybe with a slightly higher recommended age. Maybe they should change the age ratings to a complexity (...) (24 years ago, 14-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Actually, IIRC, "Expert Builder" was a synonym for "Technic", not a classification thereof. I'm sure that if Lego cared to, they could come up with the correct terminology for it; what we want is beautiful, intricate, functional models like (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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There have certainly been some interesting points made here, and I think they are relevant to a greater or lesser extent depending on many things. First of all, as Mike points out, not all kids have a problem with complex lego kits. Having seen (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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I for one would love to have a set of building directions for some of Jennifer's models, or even the more ingenious sub-assemblies. The would surely lead to improving my creations! And, with all of the AFOL's selling custom creations, maybe someone (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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Mark Cogan <marq@arttoday.com> wrote in message (...) Clarknic? Techniffer? Techniffer Clarknic? Sorry. Its late. --Jack Gregory (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I agree with this, and most all your other points. (...) "Grokked". Sorry, I had just looked it up, and needed to do something with the soon-to-be-useless knowledge. I know what you mean about the 8448 gearbox. I just can't quite make that (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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Jennifer I think you may have achieved Lego Goddess status ;-) Mike PP That is not meant to sound sarcastic BTW. Perhaps just Scottish humour?? (...) (24 years ago, 15-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Yes, this is indeed quite true. As many people have noted, children below the quoted age bracket on a set may very well successfully compile the model. With the introduction of the Expert Builder sets in the late seventies, I was lucky to get (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) There is a good section about gearboxes on (URL) , which should shed some light on the matter. It turns out that the 8448 gearbox is very similar to that in a real car, apart from not having synchros, although as someone has pointed out to me (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) No problem Mike, I know the score ;-) Jennifer Clark (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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Yep. The main difference is that in a car gearbox, the slip rings are generally all on the same shaft, mad possible by the vastly larger selection of gear wheel sizes in "real life" 8?) ROSCO (...) (24 years ago, 16-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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My own building experiences: (...) That'S the first step of getting into the buisness of creatin own models. Building by instruction gives good ideas of how the technic bricks could be used. But that just covers just 20% (or less) of the reasonable (...) (24 years ago, 17-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Completely agree on that. When I was first built my 8860 when I was 10 or 11, I never had seen before mechanisms like reciprocating engine, transmission, differential, etc. Even I first assumed that the transmission of 8860 was a hand brake, (...) (24 years ago, 18-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Sounds like we are of a similar age - I suppose there is a sort of of "Golden Age" type thing when you look back on the models of the late seventies. I think my favourites were the Mobile Crane and the Motorbike, although I remember the fork (...) (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I still count the stuff out of the box - if I don't, them I usually miss something out at some point ;-) It's funny you mention the axle thing by the way, someone was watching me build recently and was amazed I could do the same thing just by (...) (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I remember this too, and also remembering building the thing and wondering why they were closing off one of the gears - they did it with a 1x1 plate if I remember correctly? I think it was because the engine went amazingly fast in the lowest (...) (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Yes, something did happen in the late seventies. The introduction of the "new style" technic (as opposed to the old style large gears and white axles) and the minifigures were both large events, especially with the addition of the space and (...) (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) a (...) better, (...) A _mere_ 9V? I ran one up to 54V, for short periods of time. However, the real answer is to use a hefty 12V motor. I have a 12V can motor (it might even be a 24V job, in fact) that runs quite happy with _anything_ you (...) (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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Jennifer Clark wrote: [] (...) I've been toying with this -- mostly on paper -- as well, in attempt to convert my 8448 to four-wheel dual-mode steering. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, the only way to do it its to only switch modes when the (...) (24 years ago, 20-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I came to exactly the same conclusion. I hope we are both correct! (...) A pure mechanical solution, which would work with 4 wheel steered vehicles, with each axle being steered to the same (or opposite) angle such as the one you describe, is (...) (24 years ago, 21-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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Well, I've been thinking about this, and I think it's possible to do with an arrangement like the valve gear on your everyday steam engine. This would allow it to be changed with the wheels in any position. Implementing this, however, is not trivial (...) (24 years ago, 21-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) As a child, I only had one of the large, bulky 4,5V motor with black housing and built in gear. I actually found it pretty useful, but then again I never put my hands on any other kinds om motors. The most useful feature of the motor was the (...) (24 years ago, 21-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Impressive! However, I can go further than this in both ambition and stupidity - on yet another one of those strokes of "genius" that seem to inspire us as kids, I plugged the motor into the mains with one of those leads that go into cassette (...) (24 years ago, 21-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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"Jennifer Clark" <jen@vulture.dmem.strath.ac.uk> wrote in message news:3A1A860F.ADD4F7...h.ac.uk... (...) stupidity - (...) kids, I (...) cassette (...) it seemed (...) between AC and (...) this motor (...) and I (...) I remember we did a similar (...) (24 years ago, 21-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I thought it looked great, but tended to tip over when you tried to lift something in the forks. The levers at the side of the seat which didn't actually do anything were a bit on the cheesy side too. I also liked the alternate models - if I (...) (24 years ago, 22-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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Hey you guys, don't be so cruel about one of my favorite sets, that cute yellow forklift. Okay, it tipped over easily, but with some weight in the back it wasn't that bad. The handles didn't work. So? I've seen tech models with a dummy steering (...) (24 years ago, 22-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Fair enough, it did have a lot of charm and I really enjoyed it at the time. In fact, I recently rebuilt it but with three motors in there to drive, steer and operate the forks. It was great fun to play with! It was also a great set for parts. (...) (24 years ago, 22-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) there are piece inventories for each step, and instructions for a couple of alternative models, both different from the ones in your instrunction sheet. It is also in booklet format, with ideas for combining the 850 with other sets at the (...) (24 years ago, 24-Nov-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Do you remember how it "blew up"? I'm uncertain about just how a motor would do that. Some possible results that come to mind: * Windings repel themselves (possible explosion) * Shake to pieces (possible explosion) * Windings vaporize (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) It was about 20 years ago, and I must confess that I ran and hid for five minutes after it happened, but it was virtually instantanenous, I am certain that bits flew off, and that it made a short sharp noise. This is also corroborated by the (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.technic)
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