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    Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Jonathan Little
   I know this is kind of late, seeing as how the 2000 sets have been out for a couple of months now, but I wanted to say a few words about my personal feelings of the new sets and also get input from everyone else. When I first heard about SW sets, I (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
   
        Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Brad Hamilton
     (...) I've had mixed feelings about the 2000 sets. I've been very happy with the new Arctic ones. These are only moderately juniorized and provided a lot of neat, new parts that I've integrated into my creations. The castle sets look promising as (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —David Simmons
      (...) my (...) I'm actually quite disappointed with the Arctic sets and think they are extremely juniorized. If you look at the large base set, it's composed almost entirely of pre-fab pieces. There are almost no bricks in the set. I may pick up a (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
     
          Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Todd Lehman
      (...) That's mainly what's kept me from going hogwild over the new Arctic sets -- seems like a lot of air in the boxes. OTOH, I think 4 of the large pre-fab pieces in the big base are those awesome 4x4x6 concave corridor corners in Gray! (Can anyone (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.town)
     
          Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Brad Hamilton
       Yes, Tod, they are. I have the set. Look at the second picture on this link on the first floor of the building ((URL) I used them in my aquarium and you can see them clearly in this shot. I don't agree that those sets are highly juniorized. (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.town)
     
          Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Eric Kingsley
       (...) That's the one piece in this theme that really interests me. I agree that the boxes seem contain a lot of air which is why I have stayed away for now. I really think those pieces would work great in space themes. I think in quantity they would (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.town, lugnet.space)
     
          Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —John Green
       The concave corridor corners you speak of are in the set. If only they had used these pieces to make corridors in the MF, since they're basically the same shape. I've been doing that a lot lately, looking at other Lego lines and thinking "hmmm... I (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.town)
      
           Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Todd Lehman
        (...) Wauugghh! Yah, you said it! :-( I saw an MOC the other day which did use these (in white, from old Futuron sets and more reently in a Divers set) and they looked *SO* excellent there. Maybe we'll see a UCS MF with these in gray! (drool) --Todd (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.town, lugnet.starwars)
      
           Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Brad Hamilton
       I think that LEGO's point is to reduce the piece count to make it easier for children to put together. Actually, I have a love/hate relationship with the juniorized pieces. On the one hand, they do reduce the complexity (bad), but on the other hand, (...) (24 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.town)
     
          Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —John D. Forinash
       (...) They are indeed. Too bad I don't have more concave corridor pieces. :) -JDF (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.town)
     
          Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —David Simmons
       Looking closely at the Spring S@H catalog, it does indeed look like there'll four of them. The only real reason to search for this set on clearance. Dave (...) sets -- (...) pre-fab (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.town)
     
          White vs. Gray in SW sets (was Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .) —Derek Schin
       Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) This touches on my biggest pet peeve with official SW LEGO that really only got worse in the 2000 sets: WHY ARE ALL OF THE SHIPS THAT SHOULD BE WHITE MADE IN GRAY?!?!?! Ahem. Sorry, I lost it there for a (...) (24 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
     
          Re: White vs. Gray in SW sets (was Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .) —Todd Lehman
       (...) Great Rant!!! :) I know what you mean! :) OTOH, white and gray actually are the same color. And on the screen, doesn't the MF *look* kinda gray (not white)? I mean, Stormtroopers, now they look white. The MF looks like a sheet of metal-punch (...) (24 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
      
           Re: White vs. Gray in SW sets (was Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
        (...) Yes, and I'm glad they used grey--more grey = better, as far as I'm concerned. (...) Todd, I'm not sure which disturbs me more: The comparison, or the implication that in order to make such a detailed comparison, you have actually at some (...) (24 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
      
           Re: And now Blue vs. Gray (was White vs. Gray in SW sets (was Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .) —John Green
       I made a mini-fig scale Tie Bomber with parts from the Vader's Tie/Y set, the Sith infiltrator, Gungan sub, and anakin's pod. It's all gray, with some dark gray. I wanted to make it as much like how the Lego group would make an official one, so the (...) (24 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
      
           Re: And now Blue vs. Gray (was White vs. Gray in SW sets (was Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .) —Mike Petrucelli
       (...) with (...) Actually Vader's TIE was blue/grey like the TIE Bombers. In fact the TIE Bombers in ESB were made using wings from the store bought Vader's TIE model kit that anyone could purchase. (Hence the "store bought." Sorry I didn't want any (...) (24 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
     
          Re: White vs. Gray in SW sets (was Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .) —Michael Perri
      (...) The X-wing and Millenium Falcon I thought were both a light grey or an off white. The falcon was a variety of patched up colors. The X-wing had some white in it so I can see your point there. When I heard lego was making an A- wing I was very (...) (24 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
     
          Re: White vs. Gray in SW sets (was Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .) —Todd Lehman
      (...) Is the brown in the A-wing Fighers actually brown, or is it a kind of "rust" color? Maybe they were trying to approximate rust or brick-red with red...? Hmmmm. --Todd (24 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
     
          Re: White vs. Gray in SW sets (was Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .) —Michael Perri
       (...) A- (...) I have two different toys of the A-wing and both are either a very dark rust or a brown. It depends on how you look at it. I'm getting tempted to spray paint my A-wing just to see how the right one would look. If lego did use brown (...) (24 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
     
          Re: White vs. Gray in SW sets (was Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .) —Jason Brown
       (...) Just my $0.02, I always thought the A-Wing was a darker red with off-white. *shrugs* could just be me... I havn't seen my Action Fleet A-Wing in a while, but I *think* it's color is close to that of the LEGO version, except the red is darker (...) (24 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Kya Morden
      (...) I'm actually sorry to see those go. They're the only "castle" sets I've purchased. Bet you can't guess which part of the world I'm interested in. As for this years SW sets, I dunno, I too didn't feel QUITE as excited about them too. I guess (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Ralph Döring
      (...) I can´t say I am happy with this line. I like the minifigs and the idea a lot, but I think it´s a bit too juniorized. What I really would have liked to see is a "Pistenbully". I am not shure what the right translations for this is. It´s the (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
     
          Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —John VanZwieten
        Ralph Döring <doe@gmx.de> wrote in message news:Fqs948.CtK@lugnet.com... (...) commute... (...) They race around in little cars, too. And fix them a lot. -John Van (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
     
          Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Mark Sandlin
      (...) We call them "Groomers" because they groom the slopes. ~Mark (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Eric Kingsley
      In lugnet.starwars, Brad Hamilton writes: <snip> (...) These are a bit too juniorized for my tastes. I love the Mini-figs though and the siege weapons are pretty good. Actually I like the Bulls stuff better than the King LEO models although I like (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Mark Herzberg
     (...) I have to disagree. The 2000 Town sets still suck, but are much better than the 1999 sets. The 2000 sets feature less simplification than last year. And instructions to sets finally contain more than 2 or 3 steps. (For example, 6439, Mini (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
   
        Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Damian Garcia
      "Jonathan Little" <piano254@aol.com> wrote in message news:Fqs26u.DHF@lugnet.com... (...) The same happened to me. In 2 years BSWL [1], I bought at the most 4 technic sets. Since then I have bought so many system sets my pocketbook will never be (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
   
        Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —John VanZwieten
      Jonathan Little <piano254@aol.com> wrote in message news:Fqs26u.DHF@lugnet.com... (...) a (...) as (...) I (...) how (...) things (...) I have had some of the same feelings. I think 1999 really was a banner year. Like you, I watched like a hawk for (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .My $.02 worth —Skip Robinson
     I am sooo glad this topic has come up! I work in a commission only job and only buy lego when my paycheck has been more then minimum expenses. The past few months have been on the low side and I have been kicking myself for want of the new Arctic (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .My $.02 worth —Joshua Cirinna
       (...) These sets are really awesome looking! the dinosaurs look really good and nicely articulated, I wish they were more articulated, but they still look so cool I hardly care. Did you get a good look at the stegosaurus? It has a paint scheme on (...) (24 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .My $.02 worth —Mike Petrucelli
     (...) Explorer (...) Uh... NO! Don't get me wrong, it is not as good as it could be, but this set is very good. I plan on getting at least 2 dozen for parts. (...) I don't really know what you mean here. (...) You mean perfectly, right? An A-Wing (...) (24 years ago, 4-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . .My $.02 worth —Jonathan Little
     (...) I have to agree. This set isn't as good as it could be and a lot of the MOCS I've seen are better and could have been done by Lego and still have been in the $15-$20 price range. However, I still feel it ranks a few notches above "sucks". (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
   
        Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —Christopher Tracey
     (...) The only 2000 set I have purchased so far has been the Desert Skiff so I could get the parts for my own version. My wife also wanted "her very own Han Solo" minifig. :) You can see my version of the skiff at: (URL) haven't been that excited (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         cool MOC Skiff (was "Re: Feelings over 2000 sets") —Franklin W. Cain
     (...) Thanks, Franklin (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
    
         Re: cool MOC Skiff (was "Re: Feelings over 2000 sets") —Christopher Tracey
     (...) Franklin, Thanks! The skiff is in a few pieces right now, I needed some parts from it. I'll rebuild it and try to make some instructions in LDRAW. I was trying to finish a cad drawing for Pat J's contest but didn't have the chance. -chris (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
   
        Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —James Simpson
   (...) I can only comment on the SW line, so here goes: I was highly, highly satisfied with the 99 Lego Classic Line. This was one of the best group of releases ever. The EPI line was definitely good, but not great. They had good pieces, but maybe (...) (24 years ago, 2-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
   
        Re: Feelings over 2000 sets . . . —John Green
   I was extremely pleased with the 1999 line as well. I'm a bit disappointed with 2000, though. The thing is, there didn't seem to be too many complaints about scale in the 1999 sets. All the sets had a nice "heft" to them, good color selections - it (...) (24 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.starwars)
 

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