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Re: Jormungand Carrier Strike Craft
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Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:11:09 GMT
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I just returned to town:

In lugnet.space, Jordan D. Greer wrote:
   Niels, did the discussion of Vikings attract you to this thread? Crazy Danes.

Yes off course! I would’ve started the faction myself, hadn’t Chris beat me to it - at least I’d thought about doing it! It’s probably good that he did, since I probably wouldn’t get around to do it in ages...

   :) Anyhow, as I love a good nitpick combined with technical discussions, I’ll provide the elemental reasons why the fighter ought to be equipped with nuclear-tipped missiles. Anything less energy-dense in the context of space combat is a waste, as space is far too large for anything less powerful to be even moderately lethal at realistic (IE: huge) ranges. Well, space fighters themselves would be useless for several reasons under the known laws physics, but we’ll leave that discussion for another day. At any rate, any nuclear weapons used in space would almost certainly be enhanced radiation bombs (“neutron” bombs, as the misnomer goes), as the manner of energy release in conventional nuclear weapons greatly limits their range. Furthermore, conventional nuclear weapons have been shown to be of minimal use against armored targets such as battleships and tanks, and as such wouldn’t fair well against massively protected spacecraft. Enhanced radiation devices were initially developed for use in the nuclear anti ballistic missile systems, as conventional (nuclear) weapons without an atmosphere to propogate their energy would have a difficult time destroying incoming warheads and missiles. Enhanced radiation weapons emit their energy in a spectrum much more applicable to use in space and against armored targets.. I think that was slightly rambling and completely tangential, but it is somewhat applicable to the original issue. :p


It wasn’t actually meant as a nitpick, but more of a “hey if you blow a nuke in space everybody gets hit by the radiation, incluing your own forces”, so I’ve been quite sceptical on using nukes in space, at least as a tactical weapon, and especially around lightly amoured crafts like fighters. But as far as I can understand you, the dispersion would mean that the radiation would thin out and dissapear quite fast, so your own crafts would go unharmed. That’s good news for nuclear weapons and looters in space.

Regarding your aversions of conventional weapons in space, I didn’t specify what I was talking about (first rule of sci-fi and alternative medicine), so I could be talking of anyting! But IF I meant current technology, wouldn’t a direct hit by such, transfer at least 50% of the energy to the target? And anyways, if you whish to use some kind of neutron beam, why use a rocket? You could just as well use a neutron gun mounted on a capital ship to fry the enemy ships.

   As for the gun, dogfights wouldn’t realistically occur in space, so any discussion of gun design as related to realism is already baseless conjecture..

No and neither would fighters (because of advanced targeting systems) or humans (demands a lot for life support), nor would there be any windows in spaceships (planned future spaceshuttles wont have any AFAIK), and they wouldn’t be painted since paint weighs and costs money (NASA skipped painting the main rockets for the spaceshuttles recently to save a lot of bucks per launch). And now we’re at it; forget about greeble, since this would be shielded off as protection against enemy fire (like EMP’s!) or atmospheric friction.

It has to be fun too!

-NB

PS: MY space fighters has wings because they have to be able to operate in atmosphere as well, but that’s just an excuse: They look a lot cooler that way, and it’s the only way I can convince my surroundings that they’re actually fighters.



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(...) Meh, I'm the same way. I have a lot of projects I'd like to get to, but I never start on most of them. (...) You misunderstood me, I was sort of calling my own comments a nitpick since this argument is rather pointless given the conjectural (...) (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)

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In lugnet.space, Niels Bugge wrote: Speaking of nukes, what does Viking (...) Niels, did the discussion of Vikings attract you to this thread? Crazy Danes. :) Anyhow, as I love a good nitpick combined with technical discussions, I'll provide the (...) (20 years ago, 8-Oct-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)

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