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I'M BACK! I was just telling Chris about some software I wrote to score our SUMO matches for the Lafayette club. It sort of combines the elimination with a round robin. It's hard to explain in 25 words or less, but it's been used several times with (...) (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | How to Run a Double-Elimination Match
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Chris, I'm sure software exists, but we need to decide the format before the software can tell us who plays whom. Ok, here's how you run single-elimination, for reference: Let's say you have 8 competitors: A thru H. I'll use the abbreviation "W1" (...) (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) It's called single-elimination. It's pretty cruel for an event like ours, where people's robots often malfunction or just get unlucky -- do that once, and you're out. You can consider round-robin in several groups, then the top bots compete (...) (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | Re: I broke my leg...
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(...) This is inspiring??? Rugrats--Hmmm... Nope--no inspiration there... Even the banter in here from you and Bruce is falling a little flat... I mean, I know someone outlawed 'anti-x' postings but there was some good tauntage factors for that (...) (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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OK, a few things. I've never broken a leg; Rob, I'm sorry to hear about your misfotune. What I dont fully understand is.... I never knew you built all your lego robots with your feet. I guess a cast on your lego would make it tough to build now. (...) (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Ouch! Take care of yourself Rob--know that we'll be here for you. And skipping this one isn't a problem--there'll be another 'bot competition around the corner. As for me, I'm so completely uninspired--the Steve joking aside he'll kick all our (...) (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) funny you should mention this... the day i posted that i did a search on google news and found this link: (URL) can call me after 6 pm to help you with your unruly code. Chris Why do solar calculators have an off button? (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) What happened?? Haven't you paid attention to all those warnings at the end of Robot Wars...building robots can be dangerous...just ask Chris, his are always attacking him. (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | An Evening of Robot, er, Merry-Go-Round Building
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Procrastination is amazing, isn't it? I finally sat down to finish and test my robot. First I cleared a spot on my desk; then I printed out labels for all my new sorting containers. Then I rearranged a few, and did a little more sorting. Then I (...) (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | Re: king-o-da-hill
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(...) Gee, thanks for the offer. BTW, I haven't been watching CNN lately...Did HELL FREEZE OVER? Bruce (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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Geez Rob, I hope it was more interesting than my full spiral tib-fib that required an internal metal brace installed in my tibia with a power tool affectionately known as a slap-hammer. Yes, the sounds of power tools coming from an orthopedic OR (...) (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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...so I probably won't be there this Saturday. If I do make it, it will be solely as a spectator. My first no-entry event since rtl6! Oh well. I had a somewhat interesting battery box idea, but that was all. Actually its probably good for me to take (...) (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | Re: king-o-da-hill
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(...) Bruce I've seen your code.... I understand why you need to take a few days to program in these changes... if you need help e-mail off list I'll do my best to show you what variable needs to be changed. t = 180 t = 120 t = 60 Chris (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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I'm pleased to say that my robot is complete from a building point of view. All that's left is programming and a wee bit of testing. Then I'll have to spend another few days adjusting the program to account for 2 or 3 minute contests. Dave, (...) (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) That’s o.k. Ian, nuttin’ wrong with that... It’s no worse that still having imaginary-friends at 22 yrs old! An’ I'm proud to have a giant invisible *Koala named ‘Friz-bee’ --==Richard==-- *Well, if you had a woolly arboreal marsupial you (...) (22 years ago, 11-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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"Calum Tsang" <tsangc@mie.utoronto.ca> wrote in message news:HBJy4E.1JC@lugnet.com... (...) Iain (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Maybe a better way to put it is, I don't want this thing to become like Calvin-Ball: (URL) three minutes only if you need them all. But you'll have to declare it at the start of the day by standing on a chair and singing "Copacabana" by Barry (...) (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Well, part of the game is dealing with a 3 minute game time. Your suggestion is to be able to "fast forward" this game time if no one uses it as as strategy option is commendable, but confusing for a change this late in the game. Calum (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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NEVER mind... Calum and i just had a heated discussion and he talked me down from the edge. he suggested that 4 days before an event is too late to make ANY changes. he agrees that we could have a boredom problem if 2 robots use the same time delay (...) (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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1. Don't we run these contest for ourselves not the audience? 2. Just because TV has given kids an attention span of less then 3ns doesn't mean we should cater to it. 3. There is no point 3! 4. If people can watch Formula One for 2 hours and nothing (...) (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I have no idea what you mean by the latter sentence. BOTH robot owners have to agree to give up together. If you have the robot with something at 2:30, obviously you don't agree to draw. Boring? I suppose so. (...) Not at four days away from (...) (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) OK, but what if I have a bot that gets to the top in the first 10 seconds, and just drives around looking.. then 2 min 30 sec later your robot decides to makes its great move... thats a GREAT strategy, but boring to watch. this scenario nulls (...) (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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I agree with Calum. If the two combatants can mutually agree on the outcome before 3 minutes is up then the match can be called early. Otherwise let it run the full three minutes. Derek (...) (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Let's not change the 3 minutes (it's been in writing for three months now), but if both designers agree nothing is going to change after a minute as Steve says, then yeah. Now if I have a super offensive move played at 2:53, the game should (...) (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | Re: king-o-da-hill
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this just came in from Steve, and seems like a good compromise... other ideas floating about. Over all, any time limit changes should only affect a small part of programming. not a major redesign of your robot. ---...---snip---...--- Chris, Here's (...) (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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OK, it was a good weekend for me (robot building wise) for the first time ever i built a robot, THEN I built a "fake" test robot that is nothing more then 4 motors and 4 wheels and a bulldozer blade. designed to test the weak points of my robot. As (...) (22 years ago, 10-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | Re: corner or down the side
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(...) I haven't built one. (...) I can't go because I have drill that weekend. :( (...) Now that's really cool. (...) Tie is good, but I think the PUNK KID(TM) will show up anyways, and give you a very hard time!! (...) Plus, it wouldn't show (...) (22 years ago, 8-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | Nice Update...
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I am just posting to give Kudos to Calum for the new stuff on the rtlToronto "events" page. Nice Updated Logo. New faces. Keeping the events fairly "recent" and generally uncluttered. (though some of the robotics events need to be added). Great Job, (...) (22 years ago, 8-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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DAVE! (...) I could be wrong but this seems like a back handed compliment. I'm not sure if should point out to the nice people of lugnet that all your creations are the same simple 4 wheel no style, no thought box's that seem to win by nothing but (...) (22 years ago, 7-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) Well, I wasn't thinking about really getting a 'bot in play--was going to go the Magno route and just throw something together that looks like a chicken so everyone could laugh at it... But now that Steve's coming up--Mr. Legway, Mr "Wow, look (...) (22 years ago, 7-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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this was sent to my personal e-mail address. Still, many poor lost souls can not post to lugnet so as a small service to rtltoronto members i will re-post what was sent. this is from Steve H. ---...---snip---...--- Chris, Hey. Here's some info. I (...) (22 years ago, 7-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) That's a great mental picture. :) My friend Nicole purposley wears heels when we're going out because she knows how much I like her clicking heels in the mall. (...) That's me! (Did you not get my video clip I emailed to you???) (...) (...) (22 years ago, 7-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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OK, its been a bit quiet here lately....... every time I click to see if there are any new messages it pops up as zero. I get this mental picture of someone walking down a long poorly lit institutional hallway, and all you hear is the slow slapping (...) (22 years ago, 7-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | Re: rtl13 stuff
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(...) For what's its worth... I built the box. BUT it is just a box. there is now way to secure it to the playfield. so I we are willing to screw it to the board we will need some other box.... and weights. -- Chris (22 years ago, 6-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) I haven't built it yet, but as I recall, I'm responsible...so unless anyone already has an exact 24x24x6 box, I'll make one for the contest. The plan was to have an internal shelf that we could load with weight. Bruce (22 years ago, 5-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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has anyone figured out or built the "hill" for r 13? -- Chris (22 years ago, 5-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | Re: rtl14 Ideas
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(...) I'm probably going to sit outthe pipe racers, but may get somehting for the string racers-- But I was inspired by the old MIT 'bot shows where they would compete to gather the most ping-pong balls... I think that a container that had ramps or (...) (22 years ago, 5-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | Re: rtl14 Ideas
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(...) robot to navigate back to home base is something I've never done. I've also never made a construction vehicle :) Iain can build the truncated pyramid for us. (...) make this 'robotic' I think it would be much more appealing. One of my ideas (...) (22 years ago, 4-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) and in some other message iain also says: (...) (with tongue in cheek) so Iain, where were you for the monkey bar game? ok, I'm done. Chris (22 years ago, 3-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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(...) That's hard. But yeah it could be something like that. Race to the centre, pick it up, go back to start. That's not too bad actually. I'd rather see a competition for once that focuses on speed rather than mechanical complexity (ie, the drag (...) (22 years ago, 3-Mar-03, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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