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  Re: CGI question
 
(...) Javascript story: I just came across someone the other day who was mad because he had to "covert all his equal signs into double-equals so they'd work with netscape". Hrm. Not exactly confidence-inspiring, that. (24 years ago, 7-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: CGI question
 
(...) nod, exactly. (...) you're very correct, I'm sorry. I don't have much experience with either java or JS, so the two unknowns are very similar. I do know that java is a respectable language though :) Dan (24 years ago, 7-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: CGI question
 
(...) Reject it on the server end, and serve the form again with an appropriate error message. If you were using the CGI module (1), return an error if (for example) $cgi->param("Vlogin") returns a blank string. Oh, yeah. And don't rely on (...) (25 years ago, 7-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: CGI question
 
(...) I agree that JavaScript really isn't the best way to validate this. As long as you're doing CGI, why not do a POST to the same script, evaluate, the answers, and complain if they're not any good? With regards to the multiple fields, I think (...) (25 years ago, 7-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: CGI question
 
(...) well, not sure how you can do it with java, but you shouldn't rely on java for form validation anyhow - it's unreliable, and easily overcome. If you had to, you could add another text field, in which case enter won't submit the form, and you'd (...) (25 years ago, 6-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  CGI question
 
I have the following perl script that I inherited in a program I am supposed to fix, the perl I understand, but I'm not really up on Forms.. (URL) you enter a login and then hit the submit button and things work well. If you hit submit with no text (...) (25 years ago, 6-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Dark Side Developer's Kit at Toy World
 
In the May 2000 issue of Lee's Action Figure Guide, there is a full page spread on the Dark Side Developer's Kit. One of the alternate models is a _very_ cool looking Destroyer Droid, a la Episode I. Check it out, if you get a chance (and can find (...) (25 years ago, 6-Apr-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: Tasty!
 
lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman) wrote in <FDx1ww.ME0@lugnet.com>: (...) Between 600 and 700. Am I the only geek who did testing on this as a kid? Later, Gino A... PS I know this is a very old thread. That's what I get for deciding to start reading (...) (25 years ago, 5-Apr-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.publish, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: how do I set "follow-ups to" in Outlook Express 5.0 ?
 
"Matthew Miller" <mattdm@mattdm.org> wrote in message news:slrn8eg1iq.cfn.....bu.edu... (...) field (...) true enough but the question remains.... never mind I found it .. when composing the message click view then select "All Headers", i set fut (...) (25 years ago, 5-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Geek Pride Festival
 
I guess it did happen :/ sorry i missed it. (URL) (25 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: Adobe Illustrator to Macromedia Flash
 
Hmm, what version of Flash? I thought Flash 4 would import *.ai files. Ben -- Ben Vaughan buster@marsbase.com (URL) Pieniazek" <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:FsG7qw.1oD@lugnet.com... (...) into a (...) want to (...) that (...) created on (...) (25 years ago, 4-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
 
(...) Oh! Two other thing about the above... First, don't worry about passing multiple data points for a single article -- only the last one listed is used. The simplest thing to do for queueing up outgoing ratings is probably just to write them out (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
 
(...) nodnod. (...) nod - though I'll prob make it do a proper login to get the cookie, so that you won't have to have a browser installed just for that. (...) nod, unsubmitting is important (can you do it via the web interface?) prob use the 'del' (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
 
(...) No, that's passed via POST, not GET. (...) Should be pretty easy to find it in your cookies.txt file...(?) (...) Ahhh, neat-o: lots of numpad keys. I like * for 100! :) The . key (labeled Del on most keyboard today) or the / key might also (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Adobe Illustrator to Macromedia Flash
 
We have a need to get some images created in Adobe illustrator converted into a form that is Macromedia Flash compatible. They are vector images and we want to preserve that so we can resize them in Flash. We don't have a copy of Illustrator (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)
 
  Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
 
On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 07:13:58 GMT "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote concerning 'Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))': (...) hmmm... good point - though doesn't the login cgi end (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
Larry: (...) Not in general, but by directing readers to interesting material. I wouldn't want people to _waste_ bandwidth, but I find that when there is something good on the web, then as many people as possible (of those who are interested) should (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
(...) Surely you don't mean this to be true in general, right? Else you are OK with spam, since, after all, it's just using up bandwidth, right? (...) But what if the publisher wants that particular resource to be presented in the fashion that the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: how do I set "follow-ups to" in Outlook Express 5.0 ?
 
(...) right, this being off-topic.geek, i'm gonna have to nitpick: not free, but "included in the cost of something I already have". (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  how do I set "follow-ups to" in Outlook Express 5.0 ?
 
G'Day I know it's late , for me anyway, but how do I set the "follow-ups to" field using Outlook Express 5.0. (yeah yeah I know , but its free , it mostly works , and its already installed ) Cheers Oliver (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: Outlook Express 5.0 Time?
 
Matthew, (...) Anyway, (...) marks? It does not appear so, according to what I have seen. Scott S. -- Scott E. Sanburn Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Soon: The Sanburn Systems Company (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
 
(...) Nope, that would put sensitive data into the httpd logs! Gonna hafta pass your cookie the regular way, not part of GET. In addition to your cookie, here's what you wanna send via HTTP POST to /news/rate.cgi, basically: (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek) ! 
 
  Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
 
(...) The ratings are actually meta-data separate from the actual messages. (The message headers and bodies are constant but the ratings change over time.) What I need to figure out before serving a rating stream is how efficiently updates could be (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: Outlook Express 5.0 Time?
 
(...) Does it generate clean outgoing mail, or does it do nasty things to " marks? (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
(...) Yet for things like Quotes 'R' Us, it makes a lot of sense. Why reload the entire page when all you want is a new quote? (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek) ! 
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
(...) Less shamelessly now, btw -- the page maintainer has made a more obvious credit to Q'R'U, and I'm okay with that if he is. (See: (URL)). (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
(...) Assuming they didn't ask your permission first, I'd say grabbing your quotes is kinda rude. Except for the existence of your uncopyright page, which pretty much allows anyone to do what they want. But still, professional sites should have (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
Dan: (...) If they make the pages with links to the rest of the site, then that shouldn't be the least bit difficult. And I can't see how a "cover page" can generate more revenue than a page inside the site. (...) If you use Pause DB images alone, (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
(...) while true - at least then they get to generate revenue, or attract to the rest of the site. If you use pause DB pics in your ebay auction (for instance), you are abuseing the fact that the pics are up there. (...) people should read what you (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
Dan: (...) The HTML construct with the FRAMESET and FRAME elements is a serious mistake that Netscape forced unto W3C even though it doesn't fit with the design of the web. (...) I don't feel the least bit bad about using peoples bandwidth, and I (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
(...) how so? should I put in every page in every frameset a check to make sure I'm still within it? I'm not sure I understand what you mean here... (...) what about using up their bandwidth? (...) I'm not saying it's never ok - in a lot of cases, (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Outlook Express 5.0 Time?
 
To All, I have been playing around with Microsoft Outlook 5.0, and I have to say, it seems to work better than Netscape Communicator 4.7 so far. Anyway, all the incoming mail and outgoing mail seems to be an hour off. Is there a way to change it? My (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
Dan: (...) I disagree! (and I think we will have to leave it at that) (...) That is a part of the error in the FRAME construction. (...) Then I will consider to drop the "probably". (...) The question is when it is abuse... Todd has the images on (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
(...) I think a web SITE is supposed to be able to stand alone... A page is just a part of it - it could be only one frame out of a complete frameset... (...) I think Matt was refering to the quote at the bottom, shamelessly stolen from (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
Matthew: (...) A web page is supposed to be able to stand alone (of cause with all its links). If it can't, the site designer has misunderstood his medium (IMNSHO). (...) Probably illegal, but since the author doesn't seem to pretend that the (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)  
 
  Re: atari 800 web server
 
(...) Well, lookie there. You're a quickie. Congrats. :) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
(...) A clarification on this one: usually the point of such pages is to preload data for following pages, or maybe to do some autodetection code and not worry about it later. So while linking past this may seem like you're doing people a favor, you (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)  
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
(...) Well, if you link directly to things deep within a site, you're not really respecting the user experience the site designer had in mind. That may or may not be impolite. (In fact, I'd argue that on a well designed site, it probably isn't.) (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
 
(...) Sorry, me no Java. Plus, I've been working on that low-budget VB-based avid client. Steve (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
 
(...) Because it might actually be impolite! :) (Matthew didn't say that it was -always- impolte.) I can think of a several cases where it would be (IMHO) impolite to the owner of the site: 1. Where the site specifically asks for it not to occur. (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.publish)  


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