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Re: so-called "deep-linking" ruled okay
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Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:09:34 GMT
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Dan:
> In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Jacob Sparre Andersen writes:
> > A web page is supposed to be able to stand alone (of cause
> > with all its links). If it can't, the site designer has
> > misunderstood his medium (IMNSHO).
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> I think a web SITE is supposed to be able to stand alone...
> A page is just a part of it
I disagree! (and I think we will have to leave it at that)
> - it could be only one frame out of a complete frameset...
That is a part of the error in the FRAME construction.
> > > <http://www.mindling.com/sebnet/jumppage/>
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> > Probably illegal, but since the author doesn't seem to
> > pretend that the content of the upper frame is his work, he
> > can probably get away with it.
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> I think Matt was refering to the quote at the bottom,
> shamelessly stolen from quotes-r-us...
Then I will consider to drop the "probably".
> what about you abusing someone server for them? if I make
> a lego DB, and have all the images just linked from
> lugnet, I'm taking advantage of Todd's disk space and
> bandwidth, just to save my own. That might increase his
> costs. I don't think one should do such a thing without
> permission.
The question is when it is abuse...
Todd has the images on his server because he want people to
see them, but he also (very reasonably) wants a bit of
credit for the service he is doing us.
Currently the only practical way he can get that credit is
by having the images shown on his pages (and that can be
handled technically).
Inlining other people's images is currently
misrepresentation of copyright (direct links to other's
images could also be viewed that way).
Generally I try to keep people informed of which of their
resources I link to, but if people asked/forced me to only
link to their home page, I would probably remove all my
links to their site.
> > The PNG format allows for inclusion of text with the images,
> > but I have yet to see a browser that uses this for showing
> > things like image title, caption, and copyright.
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> not sure - is PNG rendered at all by NN/IE?
It is _partially_ rendered by newer versions of both of them.
Play well,
Jacob
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| (...) how so? should I put in every page in every frameset a check to make sure I'm still within it? I'm not sure I understand what you mean here... (...) what about using up their bandwidth? (...) I'm not saying it's never ok - in a lot of cases, (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| (...) I think a web SITE is supposed to be able to stand alone... A page is just a part of it - it could be only one frame out of a complete frameset... (...) I think Matt was refering to the quote at the bottom, shamelessly stolen from (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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