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Re: Why start with Iraq? - (Re: Iraq, Dictators, and Peace)
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Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:10:41 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
Either way I am baffled to no end at how anyone can
think liberating a people living under a dictatorship is a bad idea.

Why start with Iraq?

If one has to start somewhere, Iraq is a pretty good place to start. Of
course, one has to question Dubya's reasons (and complete lack of backing up
his rhetoric with any thing like facts) for starting in the first place.

Why try to overthrow democracy in Central America?

It's good for business.

Why
support Musharraf in Pakistan?

It's convenient.

Why fund human rights abuses in Israel?

Perception.

Fact.


Why
make excuses for the Saudi's?

Oil.

Why back “democracy” in Kuwait?

Now you are just being contradictory.  Make up your mind whether you are
going to criticize the United States for for opposing democracy or
supporting it.


Does Kuwait really have democracy?


Why make a
sponsor of international terror a key ally in the “war on terror”(TM)?

Terrorists that don't oppose us are not terrorists, to us.  It's continuing
the policy of Bush, Sr. to work with the devil you know (such as he did
with, oh dear, Sadddam).

This is utter hypocrisy.


Why
back & fund the warlords in Afghanistan?

Because the alternative was worse?

Worse for Afghans or the USA?


Why start with Iraq?

Are you insinuating that there is a better target?

There may well be. Why not tighten the screws on Musharraf, the Saudi’s or
Sharron? These guys rely on support from the USA - particularly Sharron.
Human rights in the Middle-East would improve overnight if the USA stopped
equipping the IDF. A positive outcome would be reached without directly
risking US servicemen. Personally, I find that “easier” than killing 1000's
of Iraqi civilians to get one man... just to replace him with a pro-West
stooge. Remember, 1000’s were killed in Afghanistan to get two men – and
neither was found.



What Bush Jr is doing is nothing to do with "liberating a people living
under a dictatorship" and everything to do with American self-interest.

You act surprised, as if nations routinely do things not in their self-interest.


Declaring war on a nation 1000's of miles away?

Scott A


Why start with Iraq?

Oil.  Oily to bed, and Oily to rise, makes a Texan* healthy, wealthy and
filthy rich.

*Or a couple of them, in any case

Not all answers given above are serious.  Or totally serious.  Or my own
viewpoint.  :-)

Bruce



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(...) Of course the perception is fact. "Perception" as in there is the perception that Israel is the victim. You misconstrued my answer. (...) Who cares? I was merely pointing out that you were being inconsistent. Or you weren't making your real (...) (22 years ago, 23-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) If one has to start somewhere, Iraq is a pretty good place to start. Of course, one has to question Dubya's reasons (and complete lack of backing up his rhetoric with any thing like facts) for starting in the first place. (...) It's good for (...) (22 years ago, 21-Sep-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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