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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > Lets take a quick look at www.lp.org
> >
> > Take a look at this band-wagon:
> >
> > http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?function=view&record=538
> > Tennessee bus hijacking shows need for 50-state concealed-carry gun laws
> >
> > "Early Wednesday, a Croatian man used a box cutter to slash the throat of a
> > Greyhound bus driver just outside Manchester, Tennessee."
>
> Hmm. I don't think it's accurate to call this a band-wagon episode,
> unless we're accusing the LP of jumping on its *own* bandwagon. Whatever
> else can be said of the LP, they've been entirely consistent in their views
> regarding the right to bear concealed arms.
I was talking more about the linkage to events of 11th sept. The link is clear.
> As a counterpoint, however,
> Greyhound is entirely within its rights, as a private corporation, to
> restrict arms on board their own property (guns as well as box cutters).
>
> > What does the fact that he is Croatian have to do with anything? It is
> > nothing more than xenophobic. Shame on them.
>
> You are correct that there is no need to point out that the slasher was
> Croatian, unless something inherent in Croatian heritage predisposes one to
> slashing bus driver's throats.
One would hope not.
> On the other hand, if the slasher had been
> Canadian, they probably would have said the same thing.
Is so, that would be equall irrelevant (to me).
> I don't know that
> it necessarily implies xenophobia (though, in the context of perception re:
> Libertarian demographics, it may be a problem), since it can be viewed
> simply as an additional descriptor of the attacker. If I were to pick
> someone's pocket while strolling the streets of Kenya, I wouldn't consider
> it xenophobic for someone to identify me as "that white guy who robbed me."
In the news yes. But this is not news. This is opinion from a political party.
> What description, in such a case, is appropriate? Why not say simply that
> the driver's throat was slashed, thereby eliminating the need to identify an
> attacker by any potentially xenophobic adjective?
I don't think any description is required. The item was about the act, and
how to prevent it.
Interestingly, when I looked at the site I found this snippet:
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Why has the United States become a tempting target for terrorist attacks?
The blame must be squarely placed at the feet of our foreign-policy makers.
Of course, the perpetrator is directly responsible for the deaths and
injuries of innocent civilians, but that doesn't alter the fact that the
foreign-policy establishment
==+==
The comment was made before the 11th. It is not one I have heard much of
(from any source) since. There has been a lot of talk about freedom, good &
evil... but not this.
ho hum.
Scott A
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