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Re: Fatwah
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Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:21:50 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:

Lets take a quick look at www.lp.org

Take a look at this band-wagon:

http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?function=view&record=538
Tennessee bus hijacking shows need for 50-state concealed-carry gun laws

"Early Wednesday, a Croatian man used a box cutter to slash the throat of a
Greyhound bus driver just outside Manchester, Tennessee."

Hmm.  I don't think it's accurate to call this a band-wagon episode,
unless we're accusing the LP of jumping on its *own* bandwagon.  Whatever
else can be said of the LP, they've been entirely consistent in their views
regarding the right to bear concealed arms.

I was talking more about the linkage to events of 11th sept. The link is clear.

As a counterpoint, however,
Greyhound is entirely within its rights, as a private corporation, to
restrict arms on board their own property (guns as well as box cutters).

What does the fact that he is Croatian have to do with anything? It is
nothing more than xenophobic. Shame on them.

You are correct that there is no need to point out that the slasher was
Croatian, unless something inherent in Croatian heritage predisposes one to
slashing bus driver's throats.

One would hope not.

On the other hand, if the slasher had been
Canadian, they probably would have said the same thing.

Is so, that would be equall irrelevant (to me).

I don't know that
it necessarily implies xenophobia (though, in the context of perception re:
Libertarian demographics, it may be a problem), since it can be viewed
simply as an additional descriptor of the attacker.  If I were to pick
someone's pocket while strolling the streets of Kenya, I wouldn't consider
it xenophobic for someone to identify me as "that white guy who robbed me."

In the news yes. But this is not news. This is opinion from a political party.

What description, in such a case, is appropriate?  Why not say simply that
the driver's throat was slashed, thereby eliminating the need to identify an
attacker by any potentially xenophobic adjective?

I don't think any description is required. The item was about the act, and
how to prevent it.

Interestingly, when I looked at the site I found this snippet:

==+==
Why has the United States become a tempting target for terrorist attacks?
The blame must be squarely placed at the feet of our foreign-policy makers.
Of course, the perpetrator is directly responsible for the deaths and
injuries of innocent civilians, but that doesn't alter the fact that the
foreign-policy establishment
==+==

The comment was made before the 11th. It is not one I have heard much of
(from any source) since. There has been a lot of talk about freedom, good &
evil... but not this.

ho hum.

Scott A



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(...) Hmm. I don't think it's accurate to call this a band-wagon episode, unless we're accusing the LP of jumping on its *own* bandwagon. Whatever else can be said of the LP, they've been entirely consistent in their views regarding the right to (...) (23 years ago, 9-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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