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  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) You can find it at: (URL) if you can understand more than half of it that's more than I can, without a degree in psychology! The article regards Mussolini & Hitler as conservatives for the scope of the study. For example (p. 342): (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Carl Nelson wrote: <snip> (...) DOn't worry about that--gotcha covered--the entire basement is now dedicated to my LEGO endeavours! Stop by sometime and have a boo! Dave K (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) And I'm not a moron who believes that nothing we do on this planet affects the world, or that we should only think of next week instead of next year, next century, next decade, which is another reason that I'm not a complete libertarian. (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Did you read the article, or did you access the actual study? If you've only read the article (as, admittedly, I have), then you've misunderstood it. Nowhere does the article claim that Mussolini is conservative. Rather, it identifies (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Carl Nelson wrote: <snip> (...) Whereas I'm not 'chicken little' who believes that if we don't start recycling every single item and stop driving cars right now the earth is going to spontaneously die in the very near (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) See my other reply to you. (...) Thanks for clearing that up. I really appreciate it. (...) I'm condemning them for their arrogance, not their education! It takes an arrogant person to say that we all must have toilets that flush no more than (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Showing that they have an agenda: what is their comparable study on the psychological causes of liberalism? It starts from an inferred premise that liberalism is simply right, and there must be deficiencies in conservatives to make them (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) For the last time, can we lay this red herring to rest? The issue is not "what does 'is' mean in casual parlance?" but rather "what is the implication of 'is' according to the accepted and rigid strictures of legal discourse as established in (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Never meant to imply that it excluded anyone else. I tend to lean towards libertarianism, and there go I but for a couple of reservations. First, I can't stomach the de-criminalize all drugs argument. Some drugs are too bad (harmful to health) (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) First of all, you're inferring an underlying agenda simply because you don't like the results of the study. To verify the presence of an agenda, you have to do more than simply object to the findings. Secondly, where in the article to you see (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) I think the belief in the 'sacredness of human life' applies to more than conservatives' I've been told that I'm a Canadian Liberal, but I 'believe' in the sacredness of life. Whether the other points are 'just conservative', i.e. smaller (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) I love the part where Hitler and Mussolini are termed conservatives. They believed in the cornerstones of conservatism, smaller government, free markets, less regulation, the sacredness of human life, etc. That just shows the agenda behind the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) True, but it's very difficult to refute Goldberg's claims in the book. He makes several good points, such as: 1) Why conservatives are always labelled and liberals are not, e.g., why it's always "conservative" Antonin Scalia but never (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: 25 things we know now...
 
Oh, as an aside, I'm going to quantify it every time-- Dubya the moron... Dubya the moron... Actually that kinda works... comes off smooth to the typing and smooth to the saying... Dubya the moron... Who's that knocking at my door? Dave K (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  25 things we know now...
 
Right from DU-- (URL) of the 25 things listed, all of which are scary enuf... For the first time *ever*, I'm glad y'all have yer guns in yer house--when the next election happens, and y'all come to the realization that Dubya the moron bamboozled the (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) Alas, Bruce hasn't discussed anything about it, other than to ask a leading question and say that he won't provide any more information about it! (...) I don't think it could be characterized as a close friendship in any way. They associated (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) but it can't. "simple" physics determines the properties of matter. "simple" physics determine what will happen when you remove the control rods from the reactor- either it speeds up, slows down, or does nothing. The design of TRIGA is such (...) (21 years ago, 19-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) By being offensive. Have you stopped beating your wife? ;p James (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Heh, I guess I'd agree about the spin they put on the write-up. After all, see how I called it "decisiveness"? You can take "decisive" either positively or negatively. Up to you as the reader. But "fear", "aggression", and "intolerance"? Those (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) 8^) I don't give a lot of credence to interpretive personality assessments, such as psychoanalysis, palmistry, or Myers-Briggs tests, since such tests seem generally to reveal more about the expectations of the reviewers than about the actual (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(...) Huh. Looks to me like a souped-up personality test indicating 'decisiveness'. There's $1.2m that they coulda done for free. Although granted that decisive people themsleves would be less convinced by such a study unless it had big numbers and (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Finally--a use of public funding that I can really get behind!
 
(URL) I knew it!> Dave! (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) A long while back, I was driving home one night and I just happened to be behind a rig hauling propane. Well, the light goes red up ahead of the rig so he starts putting on his brakes. The trailer full of propane starts skewing sideways so he (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) Natural gas storage is a pretty serious one. Back a while ago, the Navy wanted to station some nuclear vessels in Boston. People were all up in arms about the dangers. Someone pointed out that the natural gas facility in South Boston was an (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) So now here we are a few days after the fact and a few things are becoming clearer (politically) To start (and I have no idea of this is going to be a one point rant or a many point rant so I'll start by saying 'to start', but there may be no (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) And what if something else accidentally happened, that changed the properties of the absorbing elements? Or what if a terrorist figured out a way to do the above? Or what if it's effectiveness changed drastically after the first 2 days? What (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) Um...no. The reactor is called "TRIGA", and is located in Torry Pines, at General Atomic(s?) site. It CANNOT expode, or melt down. Physics dictate how anything will act, and it WILL NOT explode/PCI, no matter what you do with it- remove the (...) (21 years ago, 18-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Power links
 
Thanks for the links, Chris. I've already read some diagonally, and intend to continue to do so over the week. I feel the need to clarify something, though: I am not against the use of any power source "per se", and declaredly for the highest (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Power links
 
Oops, I meant to include links. Read the basics about fast breeder reactors at (URL) about the Integral Fast Reactor at (URL) and (URL) a brief nuclear energy FAQ with good links at (URL) about some considerations that go into when to and not to (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Power (was: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities)
 
There's a bunch of stuff I wanted to comment on so I'm just rolling it together here. I'll also preface with the clear statement of my stance: I am part of cult of alternative energy. I have done the research needed to completely back off the grid. (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) I'm curious of what conditions you considered in your maths. (...) It is true that the consumption is greatly reduced at night time, which is not to say electricity is not produced or used at all. In fact, much of the electricity generated at (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) OK, that's great. But how much do you think it would cost you to cover your house in enough panels to just break even on energy consumption? If over $10K, what's the point, except the feeling of self-reliance (nothing wrong with that), or the (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
[snip] (...) Well I have done the math it would save my household about $10,000 over the course of the solar panels lifetime versus the current electric bill. (...) Well my house has a gas generator for back-up power already. It is slightly more (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  John Poindexter (was Re: TIA (was Re: A serious clone question)
 
How does the right justify this guy? He's Mr. Secret Government! (URL) Mr. Poindexter was indicted on March 16, 1988 on seven federal felony charges stemming from the Iran-Contra scandal. The counts included participating in a criminal conspiracy (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) One book may be a revelation, or it could be a disgruntled whiner. It may be correct for the situation he was in, but not for the industry at large. It may even be correct for the industry at large, but by itself, it would be hard to draw that (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) And extremely costly. Consider that by the time the solar panels would require replacement, they still wouldn't have paid off their initial cost. Why else do you think non-oil producing countries have not implemented the system? It's not as if (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) The solar panels I am referring to are BASED on technology NASA created for solar panel use and construction. A typical home shingled in solar panels would generate enough power to operate lights and small appliances in overcast and light (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) I regret to say I don't know any more than you on this, the word is unfamiliar to me. Rest assured, I'll look into it and let you know ASAP what I find. (...) You're guessing correctly: racism is based on race, xenophoby on passport (to put it (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) I really can’t argue with that, you are quite correct, although I lived for a while in a city called La Habra, I still have no idea what that was supposed to mean in Spanish, Abra I think (...) I looked xenophobic up on dictionary.com to (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) The sold portion is small when compared to the conquered portion, as you know. In any case, the main cities are not called St Francis, The Angels, or Sacrament: so you can't deny that Mexico has shaped what you know as California now. If (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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