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Or at least an Ontarian ;) (URL) Stark and Michael Leshner were able to marry immediately The highest court in Canada's largest province, Ontario, has ruled that gay and lesbian couples have the right to marry there " I also have to research (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Just as I can't yell "Fire!" in a theatre causing undue panic, when there was no fire, Dubya cannot yell "Clear and imminent danger" and incite us into a "terror driven frenzy" which caused the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians, untold (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Naw, they'll just outsource everything and sell to fewer and fewer customers for more dollars per unit. Alternatively, they will sell to fewer americans and westerners in general, but more persons on a global scale overall -- even if the (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) We have a branch out in Windsor that lost its WAN connection-- AT&T were blaming the Bell guys--saying it was the actual phone lines, Bell was blaming the AT&T guys, saying it was the 'cloud' (but all our other branches were still working thru (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Separation of Church and State
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(...) Remember though that all the parents have lower taxes and thus have more money than before to choose an appropriate private school. Also, there would be a greater variety of schools, religious and non-religious (and even a few (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's an awfully gross and unfair claim, and I resent the implication that I am "most likely a molester" since I consider myself a religious person and have been actively involved in youth ministry for about 10 years. I'd also like to point (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
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(...) I disagree. It wouldn't surprise me if it were true. Especially after knowing what hapenned in Macau during WW2. And let's face it, 20 million people have to eat - if they don't produce enough and can't get the rest in the market, they will (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Mebbe so. Would you deny that the lot of the people under the rule of DPRK is far worse than the lot of those under the rule of the ROK??? Whether it's as bad as this article alleges, who cares, exactly, it's still bad. I'll go out on a limb (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm, I tried this first thing before, and it didn't work -- I must have mistyped something. In UNIX it's actually "traceroute". But yeah, I just tried it again for lugnet and it worked perfectly. Many thanks. Exactly what I had in mind. -- (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Just open up a DOS window and type in tracert (insert IP addy here) 'Traces' the 'route' from your system to the destination system, the number of 'hops', how long it took, and lists the IP address as well as the DNS entry (if there is one) (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No arguments, really. But check out where most of my posts come from, the raw view would have given you this for that last post: 67.123.147.114. Then you could have gone somewhere sketchy like: (URL), entered the IP and gotten this result: (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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This looks like another piece of crap coming straight from people who want to show us that the N. Coreans are evil and that they should be the next target... Lame article. No journalistic value whatsoever. Terry (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yuck... Give a religious man a boy of that age and what you'll most likely get is another boy molested by a priest/preacher/whatever... But it does tell us a lot about religion that go after the younger, more innocent and less critic people to (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Next poll should be How many of you should leave AOL and get a real internet service 75% Leave AOL 10% Stick with them 15% AO what? Sorry froggy I just had to poke at AOL. Being a recovering 7 year AOL subscriber I can promise you that you can (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: "Terrorism" is just a scapegoat.
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(...) Agreed. Over here (URL) I wrote some stuff relating to this issue. Best part: "There is no need to sally forth, for it remains true that those things which make us human are, curiously enough, always close at hand. Resolve, then, that on this (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Pretty good thinking I'd say. Ashcroft scares me more than ever. Add to that all the other people latching on to terrorism for their own pet causes.... SUVs enable terrorism. Using drugs enables terrorism. Supporting the war on drugs enables (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I was discussing the whole gun control thing with someone today. That person made a comment along the lines of, "what good will small arms do against a modern military." My reply was, "I don't know ask the PLO, IRA, Veit-Cong, or any other group (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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How credible is Bush? 46% Not at all 86,047 39% Very 74,361 15% Somewhat 28,102 Total votes: 188,510 Which issue will make Bush most vulnerable in 2004? 67% Economy 123,965 15% War in Iraq 27,203 9% Special interests 16,795 5% War on terror 9,779 4% (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sorry, Kooties - you have a long wait ahead of you. The tail wags the dog thing might even win him the next election (and thereby provide him his first legitimate presidency). Too fat (pass me the chips, eh?)... Too comfy (watching the idiot (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Real solution? It sounds like a good idea, until one considers the possible results of such a policy: Public schools (at least in Australia, and I am led to believe in the US as well) offer the cheapest education. Most parents want to (if not (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And speaking of terror-inducing rhetoric, did anyone catch the great new pronouncement from none other than Dubya himself today that "Al-Qaeda will try to use weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. within the next two years." (I wonder, (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Unitarian Universalism (was Re: Separation of Church and State)
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(...) (URL) (color doesn't matter) is a pretty universal UU symbol. This page: (URL) is a good place to start and exploration. (...) There is actually a pretty strong base, it's just that it's somewhat fluid. While UUism is talked about as a (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Many people prefer to give charitable donations anonymously, and charitable donations are pretty much 'the right thing to do', aren't they? ;-) Cheers Richie Dulin (2 URLs) Port Brique Somewhere in the South Pacifique (2 URLs) Misérable (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Why not? Some people already consider clones to be blasphemy! Dave! (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In my slightly rural high school, Thanksgiving vacation included the following Monday. This was widely considered to be due to the fact that buck hunting season began on that day, so a great number of kids would skip school anyway. Your point (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) What I still don't get is that even *if* they find WoMD, as some here are banking on just so they can say "I told you so...", it still in no way justifies this war. Find Anthrax and (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Swift was Right! (He just named the wrong people...)
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Famine-struck N Koreans 'eating children' (URL) "Pieces of 'special' meat are displayed on straw mats for sale. People know where they came from, but they don't talk about it." Sad beyond words to encompass. -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The practising Catholics were always easily identifiable come Ash Wednesday. You are not supposed to wash the ashes off your forehead (except as a byproduct of washing yourself in general) and I have never heard of a school forcing them to (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Who's Accountable? (URL) For example, look at the way the administration rhetorically linked Saddam to Sept. 11. As The Associated Press put it: "The implication from Bush on down was that Saddam supported Osama bin Laden's network. Iraq and the (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's a brilliant idea. Instead of using nukes to deflect asteroids heading for Earth, find the biggest thwacking great asteroid you can find and deflect it straight at Mars and smash it to bits. Then wait for the remains to coaless, cool (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is an excellent idea for a clone MOC. Get to work! FTX killed my smiley face emoticon!!! -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) I was trying to address this very issue, but I snipped it 'cause it wasn't sounding good at all. I was going to say that little Timmy drawing Rambo with a severed head in his hand as his (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is a minor problem here about clubs. My inclination is that clubs should be allowed so long as the school does not use religion to determine if the club is allowed (i.e. a religious club could be disallowed if it proposes some activity (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Absolutely! And if someone tries to prevent those people from praying, I'll be first in line to defend their right to pray as they choose. The right to worship is Constitutionally protected, even on school property (provided that it's not done (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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GRIN.... (...) This is off topic for .debate... it belongs in .geek! C'mon guys! Now if you want to debate whether melting Mars is a good idea or not, that's different. :-) Personally I'm not sure it's a good idea, or necessary. There's plenty of (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Entering extrreme geek zone OK let's do the math every thing is metric radius of the earth = 6378137 meters figure the "core" is 1/4 radius out 1594534.25 volume of core 4/3 * PI * R-cubed = 16982051976875485000 = 1.7e10^19 M^3 Ignoring (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Where I agree about the 'separation of church and state' means that 'official school sanctioned religious prayer' is a no-no, people getting together and praying to their deity, unofficial like and not school supported at all is quite fine. (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Blow the planet up, hope that gravity reforms enough material into Mars, and have the resultant material heat up from the process. That would be more practical than attempting to alter the orbit of Mars I would imagine. :-) If you had the (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who knows? And who cares? I think the last elections already proved enough that it isn't what you stand for, but who you know (or your daddy knows) that will make you a winner. So, then ext elections will probably happen around the time that (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Whoa whoa whoa!!! You two faced so-'n-so!!!
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(...) LOL!!! Dave, you took the words right out of my mouth! But of course, Canada had ulterior motives "but it will take time to find them"... ;-) Terry (21 years ago, 10-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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