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  Re: "I speak better English than this villain Bush"
 
(...) Sorry--we prefer to appoint our Presidents. Dave! (22 years ago, 14-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "I speak better English than this villain Bush"
 
(...) US elections anytime soon? Jeroen (22 years ago, 14-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "I speak better English than this villain Bush"
 
From the David Letterman show Top Ten Things Iraq's Information Minister Has To Say About The War 10. "We're pulling down the statues of Saddam to have them cleaned" 9. "Don't believe that stuff you see on CNN...or NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox or MSNBC" 8. (...) (22 years ago, 14-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "I speak better English than this villain Bush"
 
(...) Best is the new suggested revamping of the enlish language sent in by a fan of the site: " Coining Words I recently suggested a word to pseudodictionary.com al-Sahafism noun The speech delivery method and mannerism of Iraqi Information (...) (22 years ago, 14-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: QB and CA, was Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEG
 
(...) Didn't sign the constitution? That's your beef? Come up with something relevant to todays generation--that was in 1982 and it was bringing back the constitution from Britain. The constitution was signed by all far before either you and I were (...) (22 years ago, 14-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The truth of it?
 
(...) I am "shocked and awed" by this reference. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 14-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The truth of it?
 
(...) ... is that the same set that was used for the Apollo moon landings? ;) Scott A (22 years ago, 14-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  "I speak better English than this villain Bush"
 
and other bon mots from the Iraqi Minister of Information (regrettably, currently on "administrative leave") can be found here (URL) stuff. (22 years ago, 13-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The Smell of Napalm in the Morning (was Re: Horrifying stories from Iraq)
 
(...) ---...--- "Powell deals Syria new warning" (URL) Powell said,] "We have designated Syria for years as a state that sponsors terrorism, and we have discussed this with the Syrians on many occasions." ---...--- 'Smoking gun' may not affect (...) (22 years ago, 13-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Horrifying stories from Iraq
 
(...) And here's another, not so wonderful, side effect (URL) (22 years ago, 13-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hotel Palestine
 
(...) Yes, it is from a military point of view, but it's a military situation. You can only manage things on a political level down so far, and then it becomes counter-productive. Planes are easier, because there are fewer and thus easier to manage (...) (22 years ago, 12-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: QB and CA, was Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME L
 
(...) All the more reason that you should take the French off your website! 8^) (...) Just pray that you don't strike oil within your Quebecois borders... Anyway, it'll be cool for the US to pick up a few maritime provinces. We'll have to redesign (...) (22 years ago, 12-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hotel Palestine
 
(...) (scratching my head) All that what you've said is what appears reasonable, but strictly from a military POV. Although the casualties can be (arguably) decreased in regular action with that quicker method, the risk of catastrophic failure under (...) (22 years ago, 12-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: QB and CA, was Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEG
 
(...) This kinda relates to what Dave and I were discussing a while ago. He was saying that unlike those awful Americans that resorted to violence, Canada achieved its indpendence without firing a shot and had rebuffed joining the Ameican revolution (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Horrifying stories from Iraq
 
(...) You mean the USA, of course... It is the USA that gave Iraq their weapons to fight Iran. So this argument goes with what i was saying before... UN should disarm USA. Terry (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hotel Palestine
 
(...) This is what Frank was talking about when he mentioned the circuitous nature this conversation has taken on. I say *why* simply pulling back is not the answer, and you simply repeat that the thing to do is withdraw without addressing my (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: QB and CA, was Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEG
 
(...) Because Québec never signed canada's constitution. Because we don't speak the same language. Because Québécois and canadians have nothing in common. I'm not Canadian, even if my passport says so. And pretty soon, less than 20 years from now, (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hotel Palestine
 
(...) And is it your responsability? Or accountability, if you prefer? (...) There was no such thing. If there were an RPG, knoing it's fire would have been obviously noticed (and reporters had the time to run), it could be taken down with a shell. (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hotel Palestine
 
(...) Targets suspected of housing the enemy, but known to house third parties. Regarding the command level, I argue the commander of the tank hadn't got enough information to make that specific decision: he should have been told it was a hotel, and (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Horrifying stories from Iraq
 
(...) Perhaps the UN could start by disciplining the country that supplied Saddam with his chemical weapons and which looked the other way while he used them in the 80's. Then maybe the UN could grab Kissinger and try him for war crimes. That would (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Horrifying stories from Iraq
 
(URL) is truly shameful here is that these people had to wait for 24 years to escape this evil tyrant. Additionally shameful is the fact that this liberation came not at the hands of the United Nations, or neighboring Islamic nations. This was not a (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The truth of it?
 
(URL) Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time.
 
Check this out: "This war was not worth a child's finger" (URL) think what I like about the article is the documenting of the arguments and techniques to justify the war. As many breathe a sigh of relief they instantly forget the slippery slope we (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Sinfest does it again
 
Besides the funny psychoanalysis of 'Nique that's going on right now... " The Resistance: Wartime News: · Former 3rd Rock from the Sun star French Stewart changes his name to Freedom Stewart. "It's my patriotic duty," says actor. · Pro-neutral (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  QB and CA, was Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEG
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Terry Prosper writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) Hey Terry, I don't want to make this sound like QB bashing, but "My Country, Quebec'? Terry, what gives? It's like saying, "My Country, Ontario" or "My Country, Hamilton". (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Letter to local paper (not by me!)
 
As I sit embedded in my sofa, alert but not alarmed[1], I wonder in shock and awe at the barrage of jargonised verbiage being fired by weapons of mass instruction in the battle for my heart and mind. Brooding in my evil lair, I seek a human shield (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Stupid People (was Re: Hotel Palestine)
 
(...) Probably true. But Larry's assertion was that stupid people getting themselves killed was 'evolution in action'. Assuming that when Larry says 'evolution' he means 'evolution [of something] through natural selection', I see no evidence that (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hotel Palestine
 
(...) Actually, I'd say we're pretty smart. In reality, I think the average person doesn't have much care for most of what goes on in the world because it simply doesn't really effect them (see my earlier discussion on the total impact to me (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO for Iraq?
 
(...) Something to consider is the cost of shipping. Several years ago (work, that was 4 years ago...) we looked into shipping LEGO to Turkey after one of the earthquakes. We ended up discovering all sorts of problems. See this post from Selcuk (and (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEGO!!
 
(...) If it's truly futile to have these discussions, then aren't we being dumb by having them? That's what I'm reading from your position, that these discussions are futile because not enough of us are involved. Frank (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO for Iraq?
 
(...) I could do it for you, I really think this is a great idea. I could organize this, but I'd need a little help from some people to get seriously started. Who's in? Terry www.rotule.qc.ca (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEGO!!
 
(...) You don't? Have you read this forum lately? Really, I mean, John something is absolutely positive about this kind of stuff and many support him. I really shouldn't even answer to this low-blow, because it's absolutely intrue, but I do not (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEGO!!
 
(...) I'm sorry you feel insulted for so little, especially since you said yourself you "assumed" I was talking about Americans, while I was talking about anyone in N. America or Europe. Now, I didn't include you in the 95%, so I don't see why you (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEGO!!
 
(...) Not what I meant at all. All I meant was that having these discussions will have very little impact since people are dumb and will often follow the best leader (which I didn't mention). Now, the smart people are not necessarily going to change (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEGO!!
 
(...) Where did I say I'm talking ONLY about USA when I say 95% of all people are dumb? I meant the whole planet! My Country, Québec, included! I'm not Anti-American. I'm anti-republican, yes, but that's got nothing to do with it. Now, you mentioned (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hotel Palestine
 
(...) A clever idea, but a common misconception: after tens of thousands of years of people existing, most of us are still pretty stupid - at least some of the time (hey, I persist in posting to o-t.d!). The long run must be pretty long indeed! (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time.
 
(...) Your last two posts are basically trolls, Lar. Personally, I have found your position pretty wishy-washy so far. Against the war, but if we're in it, then let's do this or that thing. Etc, Etc, Etc. One band-aid solution after another. I think (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time.
 
(...) Yep. Kos is a useful idiot all right... Where's the pictures of the tens of thousands of civilians Saddam gassed AFTER 1991? Where are the pictures of the hundreds of thousands of civilians who starved to death (must be true, Scott A. said it (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hotel Palestine
 
(...) You shoot the tank, or the AA, and hope for the best. I like Frank's analysis... if your enemy is desperate enough to blow off the normal rules of war, you don't get a free pass, you still have to do your best to stick to your own rules and (...) (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEGO!!
 
(...) I don't see any of those people here. However I DO see people here who think the US can do no *right*. (22 years ago, 11-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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